satanism, witchcraft and devil worship. . . . . .

by DCs Ghost 51 Replies latest jw friends

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    peacepipe

    For what it is worth, could i share something? Thanks.

    What led me to confront the bible problems honestly was first of all going over alan furbachers examination of the wt flood belief. You can find it here:

    http://www.geocities.com/osarsif/flood01.htm

    After that i read two books by wheless. You can find them here:

    http://home.kscable.com/galatians/chapters.htm
    http://home.kscable.com/galatians/fa.htm

    Also, thomas paine shows some good points:
    http://www.cygnus-study.com/pageaor.shtml

    Not everything that paine and wheless hit are actually contraditions, but there is more than enough for me. Furbachers examination of the flood is solid, Read it first.

    By the way, after i lost faith in the bible, i turned to reading near death experiences. I guess most of us need some crutches. Here are some: http://www.nderf.org/NDERF_NDEs.htm

    That's my 25 cents worth.

    S

  • DCs Ghost
    DCs Ghost

    afternoon Satan:
    thanks for posting the book title i will check it out,
    on psychic abilities, i read a book a while back titled You Are Psychic based on a study done at MIT, perty interesting reading i say, it is more common than most think and it isn't all about premonitions, they have it broken down into 4 different senses, i can't seem to find the book at the moment, but i know it is somewhere in my apt., once i find it i 'll post the author and publisher. . .

    Bridgette:
    i hope so too, i think our lessons our exactly that, our own, and that is part of the evolution we endure, once we figure it out we move on to the next lesson and the next stage of the game. . .

    Peacepipe:
    left you for last cuz i don't know how long exactly i am about to ramble for, i'll try to keep it short and interesting,
    I can't say there is one thing that led me to my conclusions, there are several things that didn't sit right with me to begin with, and call it doubt if you will, but chances are that was what started my questioning, and when i put these together it just seemed to make sense to me,
    ***(personal comments and views in side these)***

    for one, the bible states that god is not partial,
    follow this train of thought and it would mean that god either accepts us all as we are or s/he doesn't accept us all as we are, it doesn't state conditions, there is no in between and there is no clause, if there were it would make him partial,
    (i'll call god he from here on cuz its the bible we are talking about and not my personal view)
    but flip through the book and it seems that he has a chosen group, the israelites, so that leads me to think which is it, for it seems like a contradiction,
    by choosing the israelites he is showing favoritism among the humans, major no no to the stated clause above,
    if the israelites weren't chosen then those faiths that believe and teach that they were are totally off. . .

    if he accepts us as we are, then fundamental christianity has it right on, accept him and we are saved, seems simple enough, the statement above is true and causes a shadow on the dubs,
    if he doesn't accept us as we are, then we are doomed to begin with and there really is nothing we can do to save our skin, and the statement above is still true, he dislikes us all equally, (not partial)
    (among my first questions way back when)

    going further, if all we have to do is accept, which path do we choose?
    if you argue that jesus said that no one gets to god unless they go through him,
    this raises issues (ie. free will for one, and for simplicity my original question is he partial or not)
    does he show favor to those who choose jesus? or does he ignore those that reject jesus?
    (personally i see a contradiction happening)
    so which path do we chose?
    (IMO it doesn't matter if he is not partial)
    by accepting jesus, then you have to agree that the bible speaks truth,
    (most christians believe the bible)
    but here in lies a dilema, this makes god partial, and all of fundamental christianity is off,
    (so as it stands the jews are off and so are the christians, JWs included)
    because now it is not as simple as accepting jesus, now there are conditions which cause a contradiction,

    by choosing any other path aside from christianity, or any path that doesn't use the bible as its main refence it gives the statement mentioned before more weight, because it gives all beliefs an equal status in the eyes of god,
    thus causing the bible to be no more holier than the writings of Lao Tzu or any other so called holy book for that matter, the books were and are used as a basis to create the regulations of religion and not spirituality,

    so by steering away from the dogma of religion and focusing on spirituality and the messages written this led me to realize that the bible had no more truth in it than the koran or any other holy books for that matter, in my eyes the perform a function for those who need it at the time they read it, thus i have not said that the bible is false, simply that it isn't all that western religions make it out to be. . .

    ok i rambled enough for now, i hope it helps,
    if you want to continue this please do so, i could go on

    dc

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