Is this board usefull?

by ArgCampeon 29 Replies latest jw friends

  • MrMoe
    MrMoe

    A troll is someone who is trolling for people - nota troll in the sense that you understand it.

    "then show respect and love for your creator and repent. Before giving me counsel apply it to yourself."

    You started this! You are the one providing counsel, although I don't really want your counsel. If the Governing Body and Watchtower Society makes it a rule, a disfellowshipping rule at that, not to speak to people like us, then it is YOU who needs counsel by the local elders! What, you think you are above the law? Do you think you are above GOD?

    Don't you know false prophets and those that set false dates are NOT DIRECTED BY GOD!

    I am smiling, I think this is funny. What is the look on your face? I bet you are mad, aren't you? Shows how much love is in your heart. I will pray for you, OK?

  • MrMoe
    MrMoe

    Oh, and by the way - if you did respect Joelbear's stance you wouldn have minded your own business instead of giving him what you saw fit as counsel.

    bboy is correct - being a homosexual is not unhealthy. It is the way he chooses to live his life and is really none of your business. Did you know he has a wonderful relationship and has had one for many years? He is more devoted to his partner than most straight married couples. Wether you agree with his life style or not is not business of yours.

    Don't you just hate it when people take it upon themselves to judge others? I don't see the morality police anywhere, do you?

    Again, I am smiling, are you?

    (Jan - I can't help it, I love to feed the Trolls )

  • ArgCampeon
    ArgCampeon

    MrMoe:

    I'm smiling too. I don't get angry, at least not that easily. Do I enjoy debate? I do. I have not judged Joel's lifestyle. He is enjoying it for now. Jehovah condemns the lifestyle, but that is another issue and it has been debated on another thread.

    Going back to the beginning point. Titus 3:9 says to shun foolish questionings.

    What do you think that means?

  • Amazing
    Amazing

    Hi Argcampeon: In a congregational setting, the purpose is to up-build, extol, and support one another in a common spiritual bond. So, extensive debates and arguments over various technical matters are not appropriate in these situations.

    In a public forum, such as JWD, we have people who are Christian and non-Christian, Atheist, Agnostic, Deist, Theist, and whatever else can be imagined. We have older folks, younger, mature, immature, educated, not educated, victims of various kinds of abuse, and those never so victimized, wealthy, poor, various races, nations, and cultures, Democrats, Republicans, Liberals, and Conservatives.

    In such a forum, we are not in a congregational, spiritual, religious or Christian setting per se. While the 'theme' is all about the Watch Tower organization and the teachings, practices, doctrine, history, and policies of Jehovah's Witnesses, the ground is ripe and fertile for almost any type of discussion, debate, argument, and fight. With that comes misunderstanding and even acting irratinally at times. Feelings get hurt, but I find that the vast majority resolve these, and are the better for it. And to think we can accomplish all this with such a mix of people - without the guidance, wisdom, and counsel of Jehovah's Witness Elders.

    Not all of it is healthy, but my overall observation is that we have a very good group of responsible people who do their best to make meaningful discussion, bring out informative material, and who do what they were denied doing as JWs: They "Think" and "Express" their own unique and personal opinion. We are all free to disagree or find common ground on which to agree, cause one another to "Re-Think", and maybe "Change" opinions on occasion. In this regard, the JWD forum is a social paradise. (No pun intended - - Amazing

  • ArgCampeon
    ArgCampeon

    Amazing:

    Great comment. I agree with you. I just don't agree with all the JW bashing that goes on in this board.

  • Tina
    Tina

    ((((((((amazing)))))))))))
    Beautifully stated! Thanks! luv,T

  • proplog2
    proplog2

    JW BASHING

    I think there is JW BASHING going on here. I don't like it but I understand the need to relieve tension.

    However, there are real challenges to Watchtower teachings to be found here. These challenges percolate to the Watchtower via questions asked of CO's DO's and letters to the Watchtower. The reaction? Silence. The Watchtower hasn't been able to fortify their members with answers.

  • Amazing
    Amazing

    Hi Argcampeon: I generally agree that at times there is too much 'JW bashing.' But that is part of the package here. In some strange way, after all the years the Watchtower magazine and other WTS publications "bashed" every other religion, I suspect that this is a backlash. Maybe it can be analogous somewhat to what Jesus said,

    "For with what judgment you judge, you shall be judged: and with what measure you mete out, it shall be measured unto you."

    - Matt. 7:2 The JW religion is reaping what it has sown, and it is getting what it deserves. What goes around, comes around.

    On the other hand, I also believe in mercy, turning the other cheek, and not being vengeful, but leave that to God. Afterall, we do not want to end up becoming like the JW religion only to get judged worthy of being bashed outselves. Yet, a certain amount of Justice and Accountability is needed here. Given that God works through people, then maybe in some strange way Jehovah God is "Spirit-Directing" former Jehovah's Witnesses to carry out a pronouncement work of a judgment message against the Watch Towet Society. No, I really won't go there, because I doubt that God is doing any such a thing - but, the thought gives one cause to wonder for a moment. - Amazing

  • bboyneko
    bboyneko
    JW BASHING
    I think there is JW BASHING going on here. I don't like it but I understand the need to relieve tension.

    Dan grabs random JW off street, puts in head lock and proceeds to deliver noogies mercilessly

  • waiting
    waiting

    Hello Arg, - and welcome to our forum.

    Some of us believe in the scriptures wholeheartedly - some don't. The counsel you suggested is fine - but it's our freedom to accept or not, don't you agree? Ozzie made some valid points about the context of the scriptures quoted - he's very knowledgable with scriptures.

    I do feel that this board allows for a lot of individual freedom of speech and thought - and that's something I missed for 30 years as a jw woman. But along with that freedom of speech and thought - comes personalities, nationalities, and background.

    As I'm sure you've surmissed, a lot of us are angry at the WTBTS for making us shun our families and friends - or for being shunned ourselves. Yes, they did make us......because if we openly befriended them (as in dinner together) - we would be df'd ourselves.

    Some of us strongly believe that the WTBTS is just totally wrong in the blood issue - historically, morally, and medically. This can - and has - caused many deaths - remember the famous Awake! article with the dozens of dead children's pictures on it? This makes some of us angry - and it could have been our children on that magazine.

    Others of us feel like we've been hoodwinked - big time. We see the WTBTS hoodwinking many others, particularily the low income, low schooled people in Third World Countries now. It makes us angry.

    But on the bright side.......there's many threads here -if you don't like one, click out and click to another. We practice freedom as much as possible here.

    Welcome, again, to our forum. Please don't be baited into a fight - discussions, even heated, are allowed as we moderate ourselves. There are many good people and good threads here. Enjoy.

    waiting

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