URGENT , Got meeting tonight(Beards)

by StifflersErSlayersBrother 46 Replies latest jw friends

  • Seeker
    Seeker

    Mulan gave you good advice. As a former elder, and one who once had to counsel a brother about not wearing a beard, I know all the reasons. None of them are valid. What it really comes down to is this:

    They say it gives the wrong impression in the field, that it makes you look like a rebel.

    Hogwash! That may have been true back in the 50s or 60s, to some degree, but it is laughable today. When you have people in the highest levels of government, businessmen, educators, even Al don't-call-me-scruffy Gore wearing beards, the stigma is loooooong gone.

    My advice, as an ex-elder, if they tell you to ditch the beard? Don't be confrontational, but gently question everything they say. If they tell you that it could cause a stir in the field, ask them how? If they say beards are not accepted in society, ask them how could that be when everyone can wear a beard nowadays and be fully accepted in society.

    The elders have no leg to stand on in this case, other than hoping you will take the hint and comply. If you question them at every step, they will be stumped. Now, depending on your particular body of elders, and their personalities, this may royally piss them off. Proceed with caution accordingly, for you know them best.

  • Shane
    Shane

    Oh God I got to laugh at this one, I sent a legal formatted letter to GB asking why they had such an out look on wearing beards? I asked them why the big frown on it when my Attorney my Surgeon who saved my life wears one, and lest three Judges on US Supreme court wears a beard? So......
    They sent back a letter to me saying its OK to have a well groomed beard, and to go from door to door and be on the ministry school, and to represent the congregation in prayer. I about shit when I read it.
    Now I don't give a dam I look like Abraham Lincoln, and enjoy ever day like its my last have fun people. ~ Shane

  • Maximus
    Maximus

    Hey, Shane!

    SCAN IT, and send it to Kent so he can publish it!

    Elders don't even know what their own policy is.

    Maximus

  • D wiltshire
    D wiltshire

    I haven't read every post but I started wearing a beard ahile ago to make a stament to myself, and because I knew people would have a lot to say and I wanted them to. I wanted them to think how studid the WT is, I'm sure some can see it by the way people react to something as unimportant as whether one has a beard or not.

    I'll defend your right to say it, but it doesn't mean I beleive it.

  • StifflersErSlayersBrother
    StifflersErSlayersBrother

    Thanks for the support guys, Ive decided to grow it out and see how it looks. I just might scan a pic of it one day and post it :)

  • Francois
    Francois

    StifflersErSlayersBrother:

    The beard issue was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. I demanded scriptural authority for the proscription against beards. There was none. Their response was that the requirement was organizational. Then I wanted to see the scripture that authorized their making an organizational rule that overruled my scriptural rights. There was no answer to that either. Finally, they said that the conscience of the elders outweighed my individual conscience. Then I wanted scriptural authority for that, and there was none.

    Things went downhill from there.

    And I never used any passive/aggressive "my skin breaks out" or anything like that. When asked why I wanted a beard, my only response was that I liked them. They weren't going to put me on the defensive with that one.

    In short, it's a losing battle. They can't justify their position other than by saying that they make the rules and them's the rules and you gotta follow them.

    I say they're fulla shit, and I say fuck 'em

    Francois

  • Vitameatavegamin
    Vitameatavegamin

    I always was under the impression that it had to do with "keeping separate from the world" thing. I don't know for sure.

  • StifflersErSlayersBrother
    StifflersErSlayersBrother

    True, so did I. But Im sure the ratio of men in the world with beards as apposed to men without beards isnt that big. So technically, Im doing the right thing by growing a beard and staying seperate from the world :) or should I say :)>

  • anewperson
    anewperson

    Tell them God made beards for men. Why MUST men who love God not enjoy that which HE gave them? Facial hair is from God.

  • Moridin
    Moridin

    In my old hall a "brother" had grown a beard. His priveldges were immediately revoked until the CO came and they talked. The CO made him a ministerial servant and he was allowed to keep the beard.

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