by unclebruce 76 Replies latest jw friends
G'day wombat,
Not meaning any insult to the author but the "1975 mental illness thread" is but one paragraph. I read that (full) report and volumes more (yes volumes) way back when I had to deal with that issue up front and personal. It has always sadenned me that so many fine healthy JW women are driven into mental institutions and worse because of Watchtower misogyny and oppression.
unc not bragging, just clarifying.
It is WRONG that suicide should be made light of..
Oh, I'm not making light of it at all, au contraire. If that's what you think I was doing, you don't know me very well.
It is WRONG that suicide should be made light of..
Yeah well are you going to tell Sue that or me? She's had a gutfull of being judged by her family, neighbours, church groups and every passing stranger. She's clinging onto her sanity by a thin thread. I don't really believe that conversations where she starts joking about toping herself is "making light of it"... quite the opposite - it's a release.
As I've indicated, I've had a lot of experience with this issue as have others posting here. Let's not judge each others methods bro. Love shines. I've lived with so called "black humour" all my life. As kids we watched cowboy movies and competed to outdo each other with "famous last words" We did a lot of dangerous things and joked about death all the time. My favorite line was "tell mother I won't be home for dinner".
I'm sorry if I've touched somekind of societal taboo here. It was just a funny story about a mad womans caboose.
cheers unc.
ps: Sue knows she's mad and I certainly am or I wouldn't be here
pps: sorry I was 'getting all aeriated' as they ay in Yorkshire.
Scully/unc...
Yeah..I understand you both and I know that both of your are the kindest souls who have both been through the hardest of times and survived.
I just fear that anyone temporarily unbalanced by the WTS visiting this site may think that suicide is an okay option.
I appreciate that neither of you think that. Else neither of you would be here posting now.
To any of you out there who think that life isn't worth living. BULLSHIT..Give it time and it will be fantastic again.
" My favorite line was "tell mother I won't be home for dinner"
Big chuckle....
Nah unc..I was referring to us making light of it. Sue is calling for help as you well know. But I can't think of anything more that you can do for her than what you are doing.
I told a social worker recently that if a young person I knew wasn't taken care of she would be dead within the year. She shrugged her shoulders and agreed. That made me angry but in retrospect she was right. We can only do so much.
I just fear that anyone temporarily unbalanced by the WTS visiting this site may ;think that suicide is an okay option.
Okay by whose standards?
To any of you out there ;who think that life isn't worth living. BULLSHIT..Give it time and it will be fantastic again.
Maybe. And then, maybe not.
OK, let's not make it a suicide thread.
Narkissos...
Mate, I am an Australian and studied French for four years. I can still recite "Le Mort de Loupe" by Alfred de Vigny word for word. I learnt that over forty years ago.
On one of the few times that I have met a French man I recited it to him. He could not understand I word that I said. It was very funny.
Feel free to PM me any time....Wombat
To any of you out there who think that life isn't worth living. BULLSHIT..Give it time and it will be fantastic again.
Aw ya big hearted softy lol Anyone one who wants a cuddle pm wombat .
I've been on line three times when desperate people have come on line (apart from our resident .....)
The most urgent sounding was a scandinavian girl one night on H20. Kirstin her name might have been. Everyone chimed in trying to help. Kent Steinhaug happened to be posting and said something similar to what I had but much stronger. Something like:
Yes Kirstin, you can blow your brains out with that gun but I think that'd be stupid. You've hardly lived yet. Why not go out to a bar and get completely drunk, try some cocain, have some wild sex and then re-think it later.
Well Kent was universally pillaried for that by practically every limp wristed poster from the forumn director to a pile of jesus wanking christians. But the next day the girl came back and thanked one person and one person only for saving her life - you guessed it - Kent 'Vikingman' Steinhaug.
That is really effen funny..I love it..It is so easy for us to be full of self-righteous crap and not see the big picture.
Mate, I'm still laughing as I type.
Good thread Uncle B.
On the subject of suicide I've recently been asked to speak to a 10 year old boy who is deeply depressed and "may have suicidal tendencies".
I don't think he is suicidal but he's feeling low because his Dad left a few years back and has never contacted him, which is a start, but chatting to him, what he’s depressed about is the state of the planet on an ecological level.
He is scared of growing up in a polluted world running out of resources etc., and has a fear of the world changing so much in his lifetime due to global warming, melting ice caps and so on that he can't stand the unpredictabilty of his future.
I set his angst against my own experience as a youngster. I grew up half expecting a nuclear war and then at 12 was indoctrinated and told that Armageddon was coming soon. So not until I was 19 ish did I ever envisage me living to a ripe old age and contemplating what the earth would be like when I was an old codger.
Just some thoughts and apologies if I’m too “off subject”
