UPDATE 2: Since Freedom is Free, Why is it Taxed? (page 11)

Muffinman

Richie, I feel for you man. I'm going through some of the same stuff right now, but I see it's no where near what youre going through.

I'm thankful that my dad left a few years ago, and I can move in with him. I'm sorry your life is shit right now, but things will get better. It always does.

codeblue

Richie: IF your Mom is taking all your hard earned money and NOT allowing you to use your car after school or work, why don't you move out now? Is the car titled in YOUR name? Do you have a friend you can temporarily live with, until you get enought money to live on?

I personally wouldn't let my MOM do that to me. She is going to kick you out anyway?

Pack up all your stuff ASAP and leave!!!

IF you lived near me, I would gladly give you a room to stay in till you figured something more permanent out!

hugs,

Codeblue

Check_Your_Premises

Your mum is being unreasonable, but hardly abusive!

I would be interested to hear what your definition of abuse is?

jgnat

Yes, there's some definite invasion of privacy stuff going on. Not to mention theft. The mom's abusive, there's no doubt.

whyizit

Can you get DIRECT DEPOSIT for your checks?

If your Mom does go through with giving you the boot when you are out of school, you will need that money. This is an attempt to railroad you into submission. If I were you, I would look at myself like a foster child that is on the brink of "aging out" of the system. You need to prepare for that, and saving your own hard-earned money is your RIGHT. No one should be able to take that away from you, and I agree with the others, I believe it is illegal for your Mom to do so. You could actually sue her to get it back. Man, this would be a case for Judge Judy, wouldn't it?! (Can you hear her now? "I don't give a rats-behind what the "elders" told you to do, a Mother is not suppose to steal from her child! Do I have stupid on my forehead?!")

I saw a JW lady on one of those court shows and she said the "F" word right there! They bleaped it out, but you could tell what she said. She was talking about being on her way to KH, having car trouble, the mechanic didn't fix it right, and she told him to get the "F" out of her car. (Is it okay to say the "F" word in the JWs?) If not, I bet she heard about it.

Maybe you could check with friends at work and see if any of them has a pastor you could talk to. Someone who might be able to set you up with a place to stay, until you can get out on your own. Maybe even counsel you on how to deal with this whole situation.

Many prayers for you, and trusting that He will take care of you and give you the wisdom you need to flourish in this adversity. Stay strong and stay smart!

In Christ's Love,

Whyizit

freedomlover

Richie -

Oh man - this is identical to what I went through when I left home. My parents went crazy when each of there children left home. Following us, spying on us, opening our mail, checking our cell phones when we weren't looking, rooting through our rooms, taking money, and important papers like insurance documents for our cars so we couldn't take them, etc....

nightmare.

I'm playing Devil's advocate here okay - Your mom has been blindsided by her own son. She feels betrayed probably more than she ever has. She is reacting to that. You do need to somewhat give into her because you are in her house. BUT - if the car is yours (in your name, you paid for it) I would get all the documents in your possesion. (insurance, registration, title, etc.) Then find a friend you can trust and get all your mail forwarded to your friends house. Store your documents at your friends. Get your paychecks direct deposited. Get a cell phone that's prepaid if you need one. Start slowly taking things to a friends. (a few things in your backpack each day.) Make it so if you have to leave all you have to do is grab a few things and leave.

Your mom isn't going to back down any time soon. This will probably take A LONG time to get over and it will probably only happen once you are gone and you and she have some separation.

Just hang in there. You'll know when the time is right to leave. We're not far - call if you need us. BTW - there's a Target about 10 miles from our house if you had to transfer for some reason...... ;)

-freedomlover

Abaddon

Richie

"No one provokes me with impunity."

Yes, quite. You're a remarkable young man; I wish I had your balls when I was your age. I don't blame you for being angry about this. All the stuff now landing in your lap is what stopped me, I admire you for your courage (and Abbadette does too). At least she has me; as far as family goes, you're horribly isolated.

And even if our parents are crazy cultic retards, it is hard to hurt them.

I don't know US law, but I think you're getting good advice from smart posters - and can understand your reluctance to get the law involved. But remember, you're not doing anything wrong. However, getting your income secure seems a no brainer. I hope you can hold things together and complete High School, and am thinking of you.

Darth Yhwh

Hey RR. Hang in there man. Times are tought right now and it seems that it always gets worse before it gets better, but beleive me, it will get better.

Your in my thoughts....here's to you !

bebu

I have a suspicion that your mom and your congregation are going to regret making your life so difficult. Because when you have to explain to folks at Target or at school why you are being kicked out, you can imagine the looks of incredulousness you will get. Schools can be great gossip mills, and those kids that shun you may end up being questioned and embarassed if you work it right.

I don't know if you will be able to recoup the $200 your mom took, but from here on out you should be moving to preserve everything you own. Car, income, personal effects, bank account, legal docs, keys, whatever.

I admire you for trying to get along with your mom. She may be emotionally abusive, or she may just be panicky from such a long time of trying to figure out exactly where you stand as a JW--and she's pretty bitter right now. Likely, she's both. I know you're trying to limit the fallout. I wish you good luck.

Hey, like Johnny Cip you may end up living in your car. The weather isn't that cold where you are, is it (but you are a TALL DUDE). ...I don't think that will last too long if other parents or the community finds out about it, anyway. You need to publicize, publicize, publicize... And I would definitely talk to CPS to find out specifically what rights you do have after you are 18 in regards to your parents, while you are in school.

bebu

jojochan

THEN- this morning- I open my car to find shit strewn everywhere. My school bookbag was completly dumped and the package that I recieved from a poster here was gone. A quick peak in my mom's locked vehicle showed the package laying on her seat. Weird- she never mentioned it last night.
Shes playing mind games, and I'm on a team by myself.
Things just took a turn for the worst, and I'm a little scared.
Oh yeah, I got shunned by two people at school today. Awesome!

Damn Rich...Can't you just FEEL the love?

My heart aches for you.

jojochan.

UPDATE 2: Since Freedom is Free, Why is it Taxed?

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