The fallout and the pain (page 2)

looking_glass

In order to claim a privilege you have to assert it first. So any time anyone sends something to the elders, you need to state in bold letters PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL - CLERGY PRIVILEGE and then I would add further, not to be reproduced in any form and/or fashion, whether by copy or by verbal reproduction without the prior written consent of author.

If people want to keep things quiet, you should look up your state and its laws regarding clergy privilege and then identify anything you send to the elders as such. Again, you cannot claim a privilege unless you assert it first.

unique1

I am so sorry. I know it hurts. I hurts because we have true love in our hearts and our loved ones have hardened theirs. I hope you have some "worldly" friends to fall back on.

Swan

I got an email back from an elder this morning and it looks like the BOE is going to treat my email as a letter of disassociation. He said he was sad but would forward my email to the congregation that currently has my publishers card.

In 1994, when I sent them a written letter DAing myself, they didn't want to accept it because I had forgotten to sign it. When I confirmed on the phone I had written the letter, they still wanted to meet with me. There was just one elder (one witness) talking to me on the phone and heard me say this, so they didn't accept my verbal confirmation either. They tried everything they could to get me to change my mind and dragged it on for 6 weeks.

It is really interesting that they would accept an email with your name on it at face value. Did you use a digital signature or something? I don't mean to sound insulting here, but maybe they just don't like you and don't want to bother with you. I would think they would try harder to save that one lost sheep.

I am sorry for what you are going through.

Tammy

IronClaw

the people that I love and care about will be forced to choose to either be faithful to their god or have a relationship with me. I know what they will choose.

Lola, hang in there. Your friends aren't choosing between a God and you, they are choosing between an Organiztional Cult and You.

As far as those elders are concerned, they will do whatever they want to. Knowing this in advance is why I told off two of them when they cornered me. I had my say, and they DF'd me. So be it. I know it's not an easy time right now, but it will get better.

The Claw ( of the recently DF'd class )

lola28

Oh my Fing god. They took it back! This is the situation, I am dealing with two BOE's the one from my old hall and the one that has my card now. I sent the email to an elder from the old hall he was one of the elders I met with last Sunday, that BOE took it as a DA letter, he talked about this to the brother in my new hall and sent him the email,this brother said he did not think that my intent was to DA and said so to the PO ( they are best friends), so now we have two BOE's arguing over what they should do. So the new hall won out, the BOE said they did not see it as a DA letter and would also not be "bothering" me ( yes that's what the email said). They said I could come back when I wanted and that Jehovah would always be there for me and so would they. Well back to the fading.

lola

garybuss

When your friends are Jehovah's Witnesses, you don't have any friends.

schne_belly

(((((LOLA)))) Hang in there!

Everything I have believed in for years has turned out to be a lie; the people that I love and care about will be forced to choose to either be faithful to their god or have a relationship with me. I know what they will choose.

You are probably right, at least if they are anything like my JW "friends" you probably wont' hear from them again, or if you do, it'll be to tell you to come back to meetings... That was hard for be to grasp and get over. However I now see that I have many more people to give my time and energy to that will love me for who I am and will be okay with what I believe or don't believe.Those that will prove to be TRUE friends. That is where those of us on JWD come into play....you can talk to us whenever and about whatever without worrying about being judged.

The fallout and the pain