jw, a thread for you and I...

by AuldSoul 41 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • AuldSoul
    AuldSoul

    Okay. One word answers are succinct and it is relatively difficult to determine if any intelligence or absence of intelligence is present. Sort of an intellectual neutral.

    Since you do not believe that last, what do you believe about the classes of sheep that differs from the Governing Body dogma, and on what Scriptures do you base your viewpoint?

    You still have yet to address Romans and Hebrews, the role of Christ, the fact that Jesus is never quoted using the name of the Father, and whether 1 Corinthians 2 modifies your concept of the contents of the message to the Gentiles. So far, it feels like I am carrying the discussion here. Don't hold back, go ahead and let your intelligent communications kick in any time you feel inclined.

    Respectfully,
    AuldSoul

  • jw
    jw

    I am unable to locate a particular scripture in reference to my future answer. Patience is a virtue.

    Since you do not believe that last, what do you believe about the classes of sheep that differs from the Governing Body dogma, and on what Scriptures do you base your viewpoint?

  • AuldSoul
    AuldSoul

    I agree, I would much rather have a well reasoned reply. Please don't interpret my "Still waiting..." posts as impatience. They serve as both a "back to the top" and a reminder.

    Respectfully,
    AuldSoul

  • jw
    jw
    Since you do not believe that last, what do you believe about the classes of sheep that differs from the Governing Body dogma, and on what Scriptures do you base your viewpoint?

    I believe some humans will never die at all and other humans will be witness to that in our time.

    John 3: 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    The world [of wicked mankind] is passing away and so is its desire, but he that does the will of God remains forever."—1 John 2:17.

    I believe some humans will go to heaven but will be transformed into angelic form. And I heard a sound out of heaven as the sound of many waters and as the sound of loud thunder; and the sound that I heard was as of singers who accompany themselves on the harp playing on their harps. 3 And they are singing as if a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders; and no one was able to master that song but the hundred and forty-four thousand, who have been bought from the earth. I believe some humans will enter paradise here on earth. Evildoers themselves will be cut off, but those hoping in Jehovah are the ones that will possess the earth."—Psalm 37:9. John 3:16) Those asleep in the grave but who are in God's memory will be resurrected, not to heaven, but to life on a cleansed earth.

  • aniron
    aniron
    I believe some humans will never die at all and other humans will be witness to that in our time.

    "Milions now living will never die"

    Thats what the Watchtower was preaching in prior to their false prophecy about 1925

  • Narkissos
    Narkissos
    I believe some humans will never die at all and other humans will be witness to that in our time.

    That will be my quote for the day. (Sorry AuldSoul )

  • jw
    jw
    I believe some humans will never die at all and other humans will be witness to that in our time.

    "Milions now living will never die"

    Thats what the Watchtower was preaching in prior to their false prophecy about 1925

    Bull crap, that has nothing to do with the watchtower.
    25 Jesus said to her: “I am the resurrection and the life. He that exercises faith in me, even though he dies, will come to life; 26 and everyone that is living and exercises faith in me will never die at all. John 11:25

  • jgnat
    jgnat
    I believe some humans will never die at all and other humans will be witness to that in our time.

    Narkissos, I see why you delight in this. From a linguistic point of view, it's a classic.

    How do you watch a person never die? The people watching the other people not die, do they die, and when?

    If this is to happen "in our time", when would "our time" end, if we are witnessing the end to death?

  • Kenneson
    Kenneson

    John 11:25 "... everyone that is living and exercises faith in me will never die at all."

    How long ago did Jesus utter these words? If that is to be interpreted as remaining on earth forever then I would say that no one has ever exercised faith in him, because no one is still alive on earth today from Jesus' time until the present.

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    I heard rumors, Kenneson, that John the Beloved himself is still kicking around.

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