At this point it wouldn't bother me it would bother my parents. Which is why I haven't written my DA letter yet. I wouldn't allow them to DF me though if it came to that. I'm going out on my own terms because I want to.
At This Point, Would You Care If You Are or Were Disfellowshipped???
by minimus 51 Replies latest jw friends
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Bonnie_Clyde
This may be a dumb questions, but how can you say that someone has been DF'd when the announcement made from the platform only says that the person is no longer one of Jehovah's witnesses. I rarely go to meetings any more, but I heard there was a girl that was DF'd in our congregation last Thursday. If the elders would ever counsel me for speaking to her, my answer would be, "I thought you read that she is no longer one of Jehovahs Witnesses. You didn't say anything about being disfellowshipped. I was under the impression that we can speak to people who are not Jehovah's Witnesses."
Any thoughts?
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Purza
The only reason I would not want to be DF'd is because I still have contact with certain people and they would have trouble with me being DF'd. That being said, I really could care less if they came after me now. In my mind, the elders no longer have any power over me.
Purza
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under_believer
I would care because I have immediate family who is still in, and extended family that I want an opportunity to antiwitness to. I kind of like the idea of making a huge public declaration, on principle, but for practical reasons it would be best if I succeed in fading.
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justsomedude
I dont feel any attachment to that cult at all anymore, so on the one hand I could care less if they kicked me out or not. I have since sat down and had a talk with all but one of the members of my family that are JWs and they all have assured me that they wouldnt stop talking or associating with me if I were to end up DAed/DFed. That of course if the most important thing.
Of the handful of people that I consider(ed) close friends, about half are JWs. One has already basically written me off so my staying or going wouldnt really affect my relationship with him at this point. The others though, dont really know what to make of me missing all the meetings and the memorial. For the sake of their friendship, I would prefer to keep from rocking the boat. If it came down to it though, Ive already come to terms with the fact that I am probably going to lose them. So if the elders came around and decided to try and force me out, I dont think I would be too broken up about it because Ive prepared for it.
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katiekitten
I am lucky that I dont have any family or friends that I love on the inside, so no it wouldnt bother me.
It would be like the Lesbian Chess Fellowship of Mumbai telling me that I would NEVER be considered for membership.
I sometimes think I am being hypocritical not writing that letter D'Aing myself, because I faded in a way that makes it look like I might go back in time. Whereas really I HATE that religion.
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freetosee
Dear Bonni_Clyde,
I have to disagree with you. Your question is not a dumb question at all.
I have been told that there is a significant difference when announcing “the body of elders has D’F Soandso” or “Soandso is no longer recognized as one of JW’s”. Because D’F in the past have sued the WT for being shunned by their family for accepting blood, voting or military service. The German courts and government made this an issue. Speaking to a responsible person of the Berlin senate I was told, no one was ever D’F for taking blood.
When a “Not a JW” announcement is made your ‘publisher record card’ continue to carry you as inactive publisher, not D’F. When you are D’F your card will say that you are.
We know the shunning is practiced the same way in both cases, but there is a significant legal difference to my understanding. The WTS can now state that the shunning of the person is purely the personal decision of their family.
It may be of interest, the official could tell me about 1 1/2 years before the WT policy change on blood and voting that it was coming and that in Sweden it was the standard a long time before other countries changed, -double standard!
So it is another trickery used by the WTS.
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minimus
So do they not say that someone is DISFELLOWSHIPPED and ONLY that they are no longer JWS???
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prophecor
I'm not scared of nona you Mofo's!!!
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Honesty
At This Point, Would You Care If You Are or Were Disfellowshipped???
Nah.
I see my son once a week and witness to him about Jesus even though the people at the 'supervised visit' place keep telling me I can't witness to him. He started praying along with me when I pray to Jesus and even says "Amen" after the prayer even though the cult leaders told him I can't pray with him. He and his half-sister are about the only JW's I care about that would shun me and I'm pretty sure his sister will leave two big long black tire marks in her JW mother's driveway when she turns 18 unless she gets baptised and DF'd before then. .