Considering Leaving? Consider Larc's comments..

by DannyBear 50 Replies latest jw friends

  • Seeker
    Seeker

    DannyBear,

    Yes, you understand me. And again, I am with you on the subject of personal assaults. No excuse for it.

    One minor nitpick on your 'desert' example: The Sahara is a 'desert' but chocolate cake is 'dessert.' The spelling itself differentiates it. The way I was taught to remember it as a child is that you would want seconds of a dessert (thus the double 's'), not the sandy desert.

  • Eric
    Eric
    Words often do not by and of themselves give real meaning. Take for example the word 'desert'. Unless you read that word in some sort of context, the writer must explain weather he/she means 'desert'...chocolate cake after dinner, or 'desert'..the sahara.

    The word for chocolate cake after dinner is "dessert".

    Try again, after pride has deserted you.

    Eric

  • Tina
    Tina

    Gee danny,
    I find you ultra-hypocritical here. You decry naughty words' while you've attacked me in another thread. I guess you think attacks are Ok as long as you dont use such verbiage. Those posts show you are as guilty as anyone else here who has made personal attacks. the fact thet you decry behavior you yourself indulge in is laughable.Tina

    Carl Sagan on balancing openness to new ideas with skeptical scrutiny..."if you are open to the point of gullibility and have not an ounce of skeptical sense-you cannot distinguish useful ideas from worthless ones."

  • teejay
    teejay

    Hello, Danny.

    I can't help but agree with Larc's sentiments, but near the end of his involvement here, his own actions (posts) did not harmonize with them. His posts toward me personally became very juvenile and needlessly personal. It was behavior I had come to believe was below his stature. He talked the talk, just failed to walk the walk. Just my opinion.
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    Bigboi,

    VERY well said.

    peace to you both,
    todd

  • Winston
    Winston

    Danny,

    So are you saying we need to be a good witness for the J. Witness.

    I don't think so!

    There a lot of good information on this board and I beleive a lot of freedom still.

    If it's all about being a good witness for the witness then we should kick Shelby out or perhaps anybody that don't beleive in GOD should be kicked out, because it might stumble the lurking witness.

    I dont' think this board is for a witness.
    It's for truth, and honesty for releiving a little frustation with the WT, for learning how to coup with leaving the Borg.

    But I don't think it's for giving a witness, and if we censure, then any witness we give is a false one.

    We are in LA la land again.

    Former elder turned apostate (by WT definition)[:)}and proud of it!

  • crossroads
    crossroads

    Dannybear---AMEN--of course it's a SONG.
    I have been protesting in my own way here.
    I too left but for only 24 hours actually believe it or
    not ,it was a e-mail from Prisca that turned me around.
    But she continued on.I decided not to let them win.

    LARC---say it ain't so. Even though we have disagreed we
    did so in a comfortable tone. Your one of the people I respect
    here. I do see your point though. I was brought here by my
    brother to help me see the WHOLE light. If he would have
    brought me to this I would have said you got to be kidding.

    So for the " Small circle of Friends " who have decided
    not to come back or are still on the fence--- I ask again
    Should we let them win? How many more must fall by
    the wayside? The answer my Friends is "Blowin' in the Wind"

    Peace and Love-----Mark

  • DannyBear
    DannyBear

    Seeker,

    Thanks for tip on remembering the proper spelling of 'dessert'. As Tj would say 'my bad'. Never claimed to be a great speller. I should have chosen a more accurate analogy. I hope the misnomer did not negate my reasoning on the use of individual words.

    Eric,

    Yeah I admit to being a very poor speller, if you will overlook my mistakes, I will in return.

    Tina,

    Wow, what you percieve as a personal attack is mind bending. I did in fact not call you profane names, nor did I intend to. If you can't abide someone pointing out how you act, or even the perception of how your comments are recieved, then it is you that has the problem, not I. What I said is what I believe and have witnessed you doing, many times on this forum.

    Winston,

    I think you put your own spin on my words. Yes I would like this place to be more civil, welcoming any and all that have an interest. But as to trying to emulate the 'jw' way of witnessing...well you just don't know me.

    Ive been out of the org for over 20yrs now. I make no excuses for their depraved dogma, nor do I care to emulate any of their judgemental ways.

    What I will not allow myself to do, is to abandon civility or just plain good manner's, predicated on the fact that I have been hurt deeply by this WTBS. Being hurt, undergoing lifes struggles is no excuse for spewing vitriol and profanity, at anyone.

    Believe me Iam no namby pamby, I can cuss and swear with the best of em. I just think this is not the time or place, to use these words to make personal attacks on those we disagree with.

    Danny

  • DannyBear
    DannyBear

    Tj,

    You hang out in the wrong crowd long enough....you know the drill 'bad associations....spoil..blah blah blah.

    I've seen it happen right here, to some of my former friends. When the overall tenor and atmosphere wreaks of negative, thoughtless and crass behavior, one has to adapt to it, try to make a change, or leave.

    I thing Larc realized that his whole persona had changed due this. So he decided to regroup and get his priorities back. I know what he was like when I first visited this forum back in late March early Feb.

    I refuse to let these bullies with big nasty mouths, turn me into one of them. They can cry foul, say Iam against free speech, malign me, but Ive got them wired now. They can't hide anymore. I for one have got them pegged...wont be fooling this bear, anymore.

    Regards buddy

    Danny

  • teejay
    teejay

    No, tina, you are wrong. On the Double Standards - Where is the line drawn? thread ( http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?site=3&id=11118&page=3), Danny said,

    "Very confusing trying to follow what Tina really believes. You cannot have freedom of expression, and then cry when someone says something you don't like. If you call for the deletion of my thread based on the use of foul language (directed at no one) then why aren't you displaying your 'righteous anger'- calling for the deletion of all the other posts filled with foul 'attack profanity' generated by some of your friends? This is a perfect example of hypocracy.

    He didn't call you a hypocrite, just correctly pointed out that your thinking is hypocritical. He has good reason for doing so, imo.
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    Danny,

    I thing Larc realized that his whole persona had changed due this. So he decided to regroup and get his priorities back.

    Without hearing from him, I actually thought that was the case. I sensed that Larc was not really EVER one of 'them,' has way too much class, too much style. I saw how he came thru the so-called "Race Wars" with a reputation unscathed by all the bitter words that others spouted. He'll be back, the same ol' Larc I came to respect, even though we are sure to have our differences of opinion. I have no doubt of that.

    I refuse to let these bullies with big nasty mouths, turn me into one of them. They can cry foul, say Iam against free speech, malign me, but Ive got them wired now. They can't hide anymore. I for one have got them pegged...wont be fooling this bear, anymore.

    You da Man!! I will continue to follow your high standard, my Friend, and should you see me err, please don't hesitate to call me on the carpet and realign my thinking. You have what it takes.

    peace, Bro,
    todd

  • DannyBear
    DannyBear

    Crossroads,

    Your post kinda got 'crossed'(?) in with some others.

    Thanks for your comments. And for taking a stand.

    I agree that Larc will be missed until he decides to return. Whenever I go to bed thinking about this place, and wake up with the same thoughts on my mind, I know it is time for me to get back to the real world. That is when I make myself take a break. It is amazing the different perspective this can give you.

    For that reason I hope many who have left recently will never feel compeled to stay away, simply because they realized the need for a break. Max, Larc, Prisca, you have every right to return when you feel up to it. Don't let any of these naysayer's who pride themselves for never announcing their vacations from the board, deter you from coming back. If you do, they will win. Iam tired of these 'self righteous' who show no compassion, getting their way. Time to stand up to em, and call their bluffs.

    Danny

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