The cruelty against me can be classified as fair or unfair?

by ann in Texas 28 Replies latest jw friends

  • Forscher
    Forscher
    The elders peak into the windows of my car looing for visible evidence that I am still with him. They have searched through my mail looking for phone bills to check if I still talk to him over the phone.



    That is a violation of Federal law which can get them in a world of hurt. If you have proof that they are going throu8gh your personal mail before you get it, and it isn't being done with your parent's help, then you might want to consider reporting it to your local postmaster. The postal service takes a very dim view of anybody going through the mail without permission.
    Sorry to hear about your problems. My family went through something similiar about 20 years ago, so I know whence you speak. Since then, I've seen the same treatment meted out to others. One lady actually caught an anointed sister hiding in the bushes of her yard spying on her. In the end, she told the elders that what she did was none of their business, so they DF'd her. She didn't have family in the organization to agonize over and considers herself better-off now than she was before.
    You'll have to make your own decision about what to do. It won't be easy. But from my perspective it looks like your elders are determined to bounce you out of the organization anyway. That often happens when one doesn't kiss their big toes and mumble "Yassa Massa, whatever youse wants". Its the old power thing, either you are brought to heel, or you are tossed out. I feel for you big time!
    Read what folks have to say and weigh their advice well before acting. We all wish you the best.
    Forscher

  • sunshineToo
    sunshineToo

    I am very curious to know why the elders acted that way. What kind of proof did they have?

    If you really want to be in the org., maybe you should talk/write to the CO or DO directly. Or if you want to be out of the org, and don't know what to do, then I say you need to see the human side of the Watchtower Society. Get a copy of "Crisis of Conscience." Meditate on it. Don't try to make a quick decision.

    I like Ms. whip's advise.

  • Odrade
    Odrade

    Let me get this straight, because I'm not sure I understand... The elders disfellowshipped your fiance for the accusation of a crime for which they did not have proof. Your fiance later was found innocent and charges dismissed, yet the elders did not immediately acknowledge their mistake and reinstate him? You two still have questions about whether you should be involved in a corrupt, evil religion that survives on ego and cruelty because... why exactly? You wonder if it is fair? You don't sound like a dummy, so I hope your question is asked in sarcasm, this is one of the more unfair situations I've heard.

  • Confession
    Confession

    Ann,

    My advice: Don't let the injustice itself make you leave the organization. Better still, let it wake you up as to what type of organization it is. Let it give you the permission you need to conduct an objective investigation into its claims of authority. Upon doing so, you will see how it is both false and destructive.

    Then, working with your fiance, formulate a plan...and get the hell out.

    Your story left me stupefied. You have my love.

    Confession

  • Carmel
    Carmel

    Welcome Ann! As far as I'm concerned, Jehovah has acted! He has given you insight into the reality of a group of people claiming to represent Him. I would take it as a strong message to stand up and be counted. I'd love to come to your wedding if it weren't so darned far away!

    carmel

  • ronin1
    ronin1

    Hi Ann:

    I agree with Carmel.

    Jesus Christ stated at John 8:32- " and you will know the truth and the truth will set you free".

    You have been given the light and the truth about this organization through your experiences with this elder body. They are exact duplicates of many elder bodies worldwide in the organization.

    If you and your fiance have the emotional and spiritual strength and deep love for one another- get out of the organization as fast as possible. Yet known that you may loose family members and 'so-called' friends.

    I say 'deep love for each other' because once you leave the organization, it's going to be your love for one another and prayer to Jehovah that will keep you two together.

    Ronin1

  • rebel8
    rebel8

    Hello and welcome to the forum.

    You are definitely being treated unfairly. If you plan on going back to the org, I suggest you contact your C.O. and let him know that you are being stalked by your local elders even after they made a "spirit directed" decision to reproof you. The matter was deemed closed by them AND they have no right to stalk you even if it wasn't closed. They have lost their minds. The other posters are right--going through your mail is a federal offense. They could go to jail. Here is a summary of US laws and how to reduce unwanted contact with these jerks: http://jwinfo.8m.com/jwinfo.htm#reduce_contact

    I believe the July 15 WT claims that Jehovah knows and is in control of everything happening in the WT org. That is an arrogant claim to make. It sounds like you're realizing the facts don't bear that out.

    Keep reading, keep thinking, keep researching!

  • LDH
    LDH
    Yet, about a year ago, he was wrongfully accused and arrested for robbery. Any way, the elders in the congregation treated him as though they had seen him commit a crime.

    This was the beginning of the problem. This was your boyfriend's first mistake. He was accused publicly of a criminal act. Therefore, he brought Reproach on the Most High God! TM

    It would have been far better for him if he had secretly molested some Witness children while in field service, where the general public could not find out about the accusations.

    Because it became Public Knowledge, they threw him to the wolves, and by association you too!

    Now ask yourself, when you are going through tough times, what kind of friends do you want to have around you? The JWs are fairweather friends.

    Time to move on.

  • Double Edge
    Double Edge
    They believe that Jehovah will act when the time is right. WHen that will be, I have no idea.

    I believe He already has acted - He's opened a "door" for you, now the ball's in your court.

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