by darth frosty 27 Replies latest watchtower scandals
If you go to the services....tell the family that there is a small army out here that they cant see feeling their pain and with them on this sad day.
Yes, his family will need a great deal of support. But they probably won't receive it from inside the congo. There are lots of resources outside, however, and some groups specifically for parents and siblings of suicide victims.
I know that others have experienced this pain, most recently Scootergirl's husband. I have seen post by some who are on the edge. We must draw strength from each other. Life can be fucked up. most of us have the added burden of the WT$ conditioning to deal with. But once we overcome the dark cloud that WT teaching drapes over us, there is a beautiful world out there to explore. Yeah we may be getting a late jump on the real life, But at least we are not asleep in someone else dream.
That was beautifully put Darth. So very, very true.
I think that you are right as well that the words "We need the New System" will be heard throughout the congregations.
I remember hating it when people said this. I absolutely hated it.
I could not for the life of me understand why people wanted this system to end NOW, to end their own misery when maybe right down the aisle was a family with a child 'out of the truth' desperately hoping that their child would come back in. The agony families go through honestly believing that their loved ones will die at Armageddon, never seeing them again. Maybe to us it is no longer true, but to many of the jw's still in, many hearts are breaking.
And for this gentleman's family, their hearts are breaking as well.
Thanks for keeping us posted Darth.
BSoM
I think the bit about him not having the service in his own KH would be great for them to hear.
Isnt it sad to read these stories!!!! That is why I would like to "go home" to think I made 10 people JWS..It is as if I turned the key in the shackels....I know a brother in Montreal who killed himself. ( NO KH funeral) but they covered it up by saying he was shot by the mafia( He was a bank Manager....I knew that was not true he had confided in me the previous week that he was sick of the congregation members coming to him to get loans to help them out of trouble--- He said he really shouldnt give them the loans because they were spenders... But because he thought HE as a BROTHER!!!! should help he did
and the WTBTS would shun people that saught professional help , it's clear many do need proper psychological help . Often times clinical depression can be helped with medication . There are such things as bipolar conditions that need to be treated . Praying to jehovah and more field service is not the answer for people that suffer these illnesses . Everything that goes on in our brain is a chemical reaction to the environment , sometimes the chemicals are over abundant . I do know the WTBTS would boast over how many religions are suffering these type of things with suicide being the forcus but you are right they will never print anything about the ones in the WTBTS . Not even a sympathy will be mentioned in small print at the bottom of the page .
I remember a young brother took his own life in a congregation that shared our hall. The talk amongst the "friends" was NOT of kindness and compassion and support for the family in their time of need. It was how they WERENT going to go to the funeral of someone who WASNT going to be in the New System because they dared to take their own life! How SELFISH that individual was for killing themselves! How UNSPIRITUAL that person was and how they obviously couldnt hold themselves to Jehovahs standards and must have wanted to live a life of imorality...and ON and ON until I wanted to puke! And yes the poor grieving JW family had to have his service and burial outside the SACRED halls.
I good friend of mine committed suicide. He went through some difficult times. He just couldn't cope being a JW. It was a terrible blow to the family, no one really saw it coming. He managed to keep his depression hidden. He was fun loving guy who obviously was crying behind the laughter. I was stunned.
The official funeral was a private, family only affair at the graveside. A memorial service was held a week later in the hall. I was disappointed that only so few showed up when this great young man had supposedly touched so many people's lives.
I, too sensed the lack of compassion and mercy from many (not all) in the congregations that knew the family. Many did not come to the memorial service, many had harsh things to say. I've had family members committ suicide before and there is a range of emtions that survivors go through. From sadness, to guilt, to anger. I've gone through them. At first it's utter sadness, then you feel guilty, like maybe there was something I could have done, then it can be anger. Anger at the deceased...how dare he take the easy way out...how can he do that to his family...etc.
To be fair to some of the JWs, they may have been experiencing some of these emotions and being from the JW world where grief and sadness are suppressed, it may have forced its way out in this form of anger or bitterness. Of course there were some who were just unbelievably harsh in their words and deeds. Never has a religious group been so judgemental as JWs when one of their own embarrases them. And that's what is really sad and disgusting. It becomes all about bringing reproach on the organization. It's not about the person who couldn't cope or his grieving family, it's about the image that is projected by these so-called happy christian witnesses of Jehovah and how it gives the organization a black eye.
I wish we could get a really accurate count of how many have taken their own lives in this organization. If we could put the worldwide numbers together, it would probably be a sad shock. I wish this information was available to the news media. This is so distressing it makes me sick.If only this young man could have been told that he had done many worthwhile things and had a future instead of do more, do more, do more..... you are not doing enough........
I have nothing to say. I am sitting here with my heart hurting and tears in my eyes. How rotten this stupid cult is!! How bloodguilty it is!!! If there is an Armageddon I'd be surprised if many JW's made it through...they have obviously got it all wrong. If there is a God he is looking down on the Jehovah's Witnesses and shaking his head, wondering how they could have f*cked up so badly.
To not let this young man's funeral be in the KH is one of the most hurtful terrible things I have ever heard!!! How DARE those people think they are better than everyone else all the f*cking time!!!!
I wish there was a list compiled of all the people who took their lives because of the JW's. And a list of the people who tried to take their lives because of the JW's. I wish there was some way to make those bastards wake up and see that it isn't one of their own failing the religion, but the religion is failing all of these people.
HOW MANY MORE PEOPLE HAVE TO DIE BEFORE SOMEBODY DOES SOMETHING ABOUT THIS, BEFORE SOMEBODY TAKES NOTICE THAT MAYBE THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THIS RELIGION!!!???? WHY CAN'T THEY SEE THAT THIS RELIGION IS NOT BACKED BY GOD - THIS LYING SECRETIVE VINDICTIVE CRIMINAL CULT!!!!
I'm so angry. I'm sorry for this rambling, ridiculous post. I'm just so hurt and angry. I'm just so hurt for all the people who have to hurt because of the WTS. I just feel so helpless and want to do something to help. I don't know how to help.
How truely sad it is when one takes there life,
but you dont know what he was thinking or doing in his head, who are you to say he didnt have a built up mental problem waiting to explode , maybe it was a girlfriend or a work mate or a child hood bully who could be to blame, does that mean if he was cathlic then it was the popes falt he killed himself ??????????????????
How truely sad it is when one takes there life,
but you dont know what he was thinking or doing in his head, who are you to say he didnt have a built up mental problem waiting to explode , maybe it was a girlfriend or a work mate or a child hood bully who could be to blame, does that mean if he was cathlic then it was the popes falt he killed himself ??????????????????
but you dont know what he was thinking or doing in his head, who are you to say he didnt have a built up mental problem waiting to explode , maybe it was a girlfriend or a work mate or a child hood bully who could be to blame,
Nice try, Trollman, but the original post specified that it was the demands placed on him by the cult that pushed him to this extreme act.
Hmmmm, now let me see: new troll, same ol' argument, the letter"jw" in lower case in your screenname - you wouldn't be jw, now, would you?
