American Witnesses face difficult time over flag

by ozziepost 35 Replies latest jw friends

  • Seeker
    Seeker

    Give it up, Tallyman, you're not even trying here. A human can be called:

    A human
    An animal
    A collection of atoms
    Whatever else you want

    But in the context you were talking (and now you'll deny that I knew what you were thinking), you sounded like you were calling them 'animals' not in the biological sense but in the social sense, as in less worthy of being called human than we in the West. That idea is wrong. They are as human as we are.

    I think the only way to defeat this "enemy" we now face IS to understand them, and that they are Barbarians who want to destroy Civilization - the Law of which is Cooperation.

    They don't want Western civilization, but they do want civilization. Just not a kind you are used to. You don't understand them, which means you underestimate them. Go ahead, think your barbaric thoughts all you want. Makes no difference. I made my comment because I thought you cared about accuracy.

    I'm not in the mood to fight with you. Go ahead and make your comment on this response, say whatever you feel like saying. I don't care.

  • Tallyman
    Tallyman
    Give it up, Tallyman, you're not even trying here

    Here we are talking about Declared War, Seeker
    and you're already talking 'surrender'...
    Sheesh!

    I hope others don't plan on Waving the White Flag THAT easy,

    A human can be called:

    A human
    An animal
    A collection of atoms
    Whatever else you want

    "Whatever else"?

    But in the context you were talking (and now you'll deny that I knew what you were thinking),

    I deny that you knew what I was thinking.

    But in the context you were talking (and now you'll deny that I knew what you were thinking), you sounded like you were calling them 'animals' not in the biological sense but in the social sense, as in less worthy of being called human than we in the West. That idea is wrong. They are as human as we are.

    YOU are/were the one who has called humans, 'animals'.
    Not me, hoss.

    I was quoting YOU.

    What I've said explicitly in the past, is that Humans Created By God,
    are separate from the Animal Kingdom, but can sink to animalistic
    behaviors...
    but I don't want to slam The Animal Kingdom,
    because I don't think animals are capable of Evil.

    What these Terrorists did on 9/11 was EVIL Incarnate.
    We saw the "face" of HUMAN evil.

    So, again, anytime I even use the animal analogies, I know I risk
    insulting the Animal Kingdom. Animals are not and cannot be Evil.

    But calling Humans, 'Animals'. That is what you claimed and said.
    Not me.
    Are you now you retracting what you've said in the past?

    Go ahead, think your barbaric thoughts all you want. Makes no difference. I made my comment because I thought you cared about accuracy.

    And you don't think that the Terrorists are 'Barbarians'?

    I made my comments because I thought you cared about accuracy.

    They don't want Western civilization, but they do want civilization.

    Okay, I'd love to hear One Thing about their "civilization" which you consider "civil". Just one thing.
    And HOW was their civilization manifested on 9/11?

    I'm not in the mood to fight with you. Go ahead and make your comment on this response, say whatever you feel like saying. I don't care.

    I hope others (those in the militaries from many nations who now will be putting their lives on the line to Defend Freedom, Liberty and Civilization) don't plan on Waving the White Flag THAT easy.

    .

  • thewiz
    thewiz

    Tallyman since you are so gun-ho, why don't you do us all a favor and ride a bomb like Slim Pickens' did in Dr. Strangelove? We can then all clap on what a great hero you are. You need to get out more, say Afghanistan.

    You did say you used to be a JW right? For 20 years? Then how come you always appear to be so vilolent, insolent, and radical?

    Seriously, you sound like a relative of mine, when they haven't taken their Prozac.

    I guess after all those years as a little-do-good-ass-kissin christian, you've got to vent.

    If your're trying to impress anyone with your "intellect," I'm afraid you are failing.

  • ofcmad
    ofcmad

    Dear "Wiz",

    First, from your position of "neutrality", it looks like you shouldn't even offer an opinion on what has happened. It is one thing to be a protester. They at least have a standing. It's another thing to be a supporter. They at least have standing. You remind me of those that do not vote yet gripe and complain about the government they live under. It's easy to remain nuetral. Granted, it is your US Constitutional right. It's easy to sit back while someone else fights or defends you. Although, I see that you share in the shed blood of those who fight for your pacifist mentality.

    Secondly, you need to do some biblical research on the Christian duties in government.

    ofcmad

    "Noah was a drunk and look what he accomplished." The Metatron/Dogma
  • Tallyman
    Tallyman

    Mr. Gee-Whiz!,

    everything that 'ofcmad' just wrote to you?

    Ditto.

    And Mr. Gee-Whiz!, when you wrote:

    Tallyman since you are so gun-ho...

    I just have to correct your spelling in order to impress everyone here with my intellect.

    It is 'gung-ho', not gun-ho ...
    oh.
    OH!
    Wait a minute... I get it!
    You were trying to be clever.
    yeaaa, ok
    I see.

    The only ones lately who have REALLY been 'gung-ho' (I know, word used by Marines, but is of Oriental origin...) in the most perverse
    sense, were those Kamikaze Islamik Fanatik Pilots who flew into
    those buildings.

    Uh, tell us again Mr. Gee-Whiz!, if what you say is true:

    It is not a war that can be fought with guns and bombs

    I missed the details of HOW you said this war MUST be fought.

    'nother words, what IS your strategy, Mr. Gee-Whiz!?

    (Oh yeah, and tell your relative the next time they take Prozac,
    to shove it up their ass... what I'm saying is, it will do a LOT more
    good to take it rectally, instead of orally, but timing is critical
    too, as they need to take it just before defecating.)

    .

  • cosmo
    cosmo

    Just tell me which button and when to push it!

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