((((((((( Ian and Claire ))))))))) So sorry to hear about what happened to Karl, but glad that he was able to get away from the gang.
It's very scary these days, isn't it (though I don't think it means that the storm clouds of Armageddon are gathering!!!!! ))))))
It's about time the government got its ass into gear with these feral youths. I think instant taking away of child benefit from the parent it the child gets into any kind of trouble would be a good step and a three counts and you're out scheme for kids out after 11 pm, so that their parents also lost their family allowance.. Kids of that age should never be out at that time of the night, and the fact that they are shows they have totally irresponsible parents, or parent!
I hope Karl and both of you feel better soon. Perhaps a little 'taxi money' might be some help for Karl for now.
Ironhead - Well done on that slap round the head for the chav!! I bet the police who cautioned you wished they could have done the same. In future however, never admit to anything!!!
Take care Ian and Claire and of course Karl!!
Love to you all
Gill