No Field Service No Paradise

by moomanchu 22 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • moomanchu
    moomanchu

    My mom doesn't go out in field service or go to the book study or give talks or answer (never did 40 to 50 years now).

    She is however a loyal defender of the Watchtower and she regularly goes to sun. and thur. meetings and to all the assemblies. I've tried to tell her that according to the Watchtower she won't make it into the paradise. She still defends the cult and says "I'm trying and that she'll be alright".

    Question: Does anyone have a list of publictions or quotes or scans where they says no field service no paradise ?

    I know they've said it can't remember where.

  • greendawn
    greendawn

    In fact the FS is a necessity that the org promotes so strongly because someone has to sell its publications, still it's strange that she supports the dubs so much while not following their rules perhaps she realises these are just manmade and unnecessary.

  • TopHat
    TopHat

    I think the only way one can get away with NOT going out in field service is to be an interested by-stander. I am sure the magizines have some info for you...but I don't have the CD's to search them out....Blonde is good at seek and search quotes.

  • bubble
    bubble

    It's absolutely laughable that she thinks she's going to be ok.

    Haven't the elders ever had a word with her in the last 50 years!!

  • blondie
    blondie

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    w881/1p.28par.13KeepOnPreachingtheKingdom***

    The responsibility of Jehovah’s dedicated Witnesses to warn people of God’s coming judgment can be compared to that of Ezekiel in his time. He was designated a watchman to the house of Israel. His assignment was to warn the Israelites that execution was coming upon them if they did not turn away from their bad ways. If he as a watchman failed to sound the warning, execution would still come upon the wicked people, but their blood would be upon the head of the negligent watchman. In this Jehovah shows his attitude toward executing judgment: "I take delight, not in the death of the wicked one, but in that someone wicked turns back from his way and actually keeps living. Turn back, turn back from your bad ways, for why is it that you should die, O house of Israel?"—Ezekiel 33:1-11.

  • Wasanelder Once
    Wasanelder Once

    Moomanchu,

    There is no published statement of "no field service/no salvation. But there is a "scriptural principle" used by the Washtowel Blabber and Trash Society:

    (Ezekiel 3:17-21) 17 "Son of man, a watchman is what I have made you to the house of Israel, and you must hear from my mouth speech and you must warn them from me. 18 When I say to someone wicked, ‘You will positively die,’ and you do not actually warn him and speak in order to warn the wicked one from his wicked way to preserve him alive, he being wicked, in his error he will die, but his blood I shall ask back from your own hand. 19 But as for you, in case you have warned someone wicked and he does not actually turn back from his wickedness and from his wicked way, he himself for his error will die; but as for you, you will have delivered your own soul. 20 And when someone righteous turns back from his righteousness and actually does injustice and I must put a stumbling block before him, he himself will die because you did not warn him. For his sin he will die, and his righteous acts that he did will not be remembered, but his blood I shall ask back from your own hand. 21 And as for you, in case you have warned someone righteous that the righteous one should not sin, and he himself does not actually sin, he will without fail keep on living because he had been warned, and you yourself will have delivered your own soul."

    w948/15p.15ThisGoodNewsMustBePreachedFirst

    19

    Of course, preaching from house to house to strangers is no easy matter, regardless of how many years one may have been a Witness. Then what keeps these Christians going? Their Christian dedication and a sense of responsibility. Paul wrote: "If, now, I am declaring the good news, it is no reason for me to boast, for necessity is laid upon me. Really, woe is me if I did not declare the good news!" True Christians have a message that means life, so how could they possibly keep it to themselves? The very principle of bloodguilt for failing to give a warning in time of danger is an impelling reason to preach the good news.—1 Corinthians 9:16; Ezekiel 3:17-21.

    w869/1p.27GodlyRespectforBlood

    (Ezekiel 3:17-21; 33:7-9) Jehovah’s anointed servants and the "great crowd" of their companions bear a similar responsibility today. Our witness should be thorough. Thus, during the day of God’s vengeance, we may be saved along with those who listen to us.—Isaiah 26:20, 21; 1 Timothy 4:16; Revelation 7:9, 14, 15.

    km2/97p.1ShareIntheWorkThatWillNeverBeRepeated

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    We must share in sounding the modern-day warning to others, "whether they will hear or will refrain." This is a God-given assignment, which we dare not ignore. (Ezek. 2:4, 5; 3:17, 18)

    As you can see there is no definite statement that "Door to door" is required, simply that we warn others. Let your mother off the hook, in reality she's in good shape by this legalistic standard. You don't want to pressure the old gal to waste her time and gas do you?

    W.Once

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

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    w94 8/15p.15This Good News Must Be Preached First***

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    KeepstheWitnessesGoing?

    19

    Of course, preaching from house to house to strangers is no easy matter, regardless of how many years one may have been a Witness. Then what keeps these Christians going? Their Christian dedication and a sense of responsibility. Paul wrote: "If, now, I am declaring the good news, it is no reason for me to boast, for necessity is laid upon me. Really, woe is me if I did not declare the good news!" True Christians have a message that means life, so how could they possibly keep it to themselves? The very principle of bloodguilt for failing to give a warning in time of danger is an impelling reason to preach the good news.—1 Corinthians 9:16; Ezekiel 3:17-21.

    You can look up many references to the last two scriptures that show that JW's must preach.

  • fullofdoubtnow
    fullofdoubtnow
    No Field Service No Paradise

    Since there's not going to be a paradise, I can't see how it matters much anyway.

  • fokyc
    fokyc

    I had this problem a while ago, you will find this thread covers the question:

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/119310/1.ashx

    fokyc

  • compound complex
    compound complex

    Dear Moomanchu,

    Whether it was commanded, demanded, suggested or implied, I nevertheless inferred, at the very least, that what I preached to someone "today" could very well result in saving his/her life. That thought was clearly expressed in the publications. My view of paradise was of that conveyed in very primitive fashion on the cover of earlier Watchtower magazines, the mountain and waterfall in the distance, the foreboding tower of strength in the foreground. That image has indelibly impressed itself upon me emotionally and aesthetically and professionally. I wanted to be there: that was my vision of paradise. But my years of full-time service took a toll on me psychologically, mainly because the command to preach was more closely linked to the modus operandi of a high-demand organization than to Jesus Christ's gentle persuasion to become his follower. Whatever your mother's reasons for not "participating" in the required manner, I simply could not push the literature, preferring to use the Bible and discussing the Lord's Prayer and the love of God and Jesus. But that was not the program and I simply could not fit in. I contented myself with informal witnessing but even gave that up officially at the first of the year. After forty years of absolute regularity, I am now inactive. I very clearly remember the words of a 1960's WT, almost verbatim: ' Some brothers are so caught up with the Truth that they push others to do what they do not want to do.'

    Yours truly,

    Compound Complex

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