evolution or creation? lets talk...

by Sam87 537 Replies latest jw friends

  • Deputy Dog
    Deputy Dog

    Alan

    How someone with enough intelligence to post replies on this board can manage to miss an answer that simple can only be explained by the fact that they deliberately fail to listen, they consciously fail to undestand what they're being told. Thus, the frustration of science-oriented people.

    Sorry, Alan we aren't as evolved as you, I guess You "science-oriented people" are smarter than all us poor creationists. But you aren't very patient. Didn't you know patients is a virtue, oh that's right you don't believe in virtue, sorry.

  • Deputy Dog
    Deputy Dog

    Steve

    That's why I asked it. What do YOU think is the difference between a species and a variety?

    So, you don't know either?

  • stevenyc
    stevenyc

    D Dog: So, you don't know either?

    Why this kind of response? You asked a question, to which I am trying to explain to you. In order for me to explain it, I need to know what your understanding of the subject is.

    That's All !

    I am not, nor have I ever on this thread tried to trick or deceive people. I am not playing games. If you asked a question with honesty, please give me the same courtesy, otherwise don't ask me, and I will concentrate on others who are asking questions to find answers.

    steve

    PS, if I have misinterpreted your motives, then I apologize.

  • dido
    dido

    stevenyc- protesteth too much

  • acsot
    acsot

    AlanF, your post about climate disruptions was very illuminating.

    I've just begun reading The Ancestor's Tale, recommended by Abaddon, and there is an explanation of how our genetic code itself provides one of the proofs for evolution. It's all very fascinating but very slow going for me since science was my least favourite subject in school. However, it's never too late to learn .

  • stevenyc
    stevenyc

    dido - Posterior too much

    steve

  • freetosee
    freetosee
    fts- the existence of neanderthal is what i don`t agree with, but i don`t appreciate you questioning me on someone elses statement,and why have you put my post to Ian on? and what is your question? thanks for the link.

    Dido,

    you said you believe in the Genesis account. My question is, how do you fit in the existence of the Neanderthal into the Genesis account? No matter who mentioned it, the Neanderthal is a fact there is evidence for it. Did you see the Wiki-link? Greendawn mention it to illustrate the changes in the understanding of scientific findings.

    But you have answered my question, since you do not believe that the Neanderthal walked the earth.

    Also I misread another person’s statement as another personal statement, but that is also clarified.

    You have posted that you whish the "evo’s" to have a rude awakening when Armageddon comes plus you faith in Genesis. Maybe that why some think of you as a bible-lover?

  • AlanF
    AlanF

    Deputy Dog, your response is typical of the stupid comments I've come to expect from fundamentalists of all varieties, including and especially JWs.

    :: How someone with enough intelligence to post replies on this board can manage to miss an answer that simple can only be explained by the fact that they deliberately fail to listen, they consciously fail to undestand what they're being told. Thus, the frustration of science-oriented people.

    ; Sorry, Alan we aren't as evolved as you, I guess You "science-oriented people" are smarter than all us poor creationists.

    See what I mean? This fails to address what I said. I acknowledged that you're smart enough to understand -- if you wanted to -- but that you deliberately refused to understand. This answer of yours is a good example of that. It's not that you didn't understand what I said, it's that you didn't want to deal with what I said. Hence, you found an infantile sidestep.

    This is exactly the kind of refusal to think that many people today are decrying about fundamentalism of all stripes -- Christian, Islamic, you name it.

    And of course, in giving your stupid reply here, you again failed to acknowledge the simple fact that Steve gave you an answer. So once again you're demonstrating the truth of my descriptions by continuing to fail to acknowledge this.

    : But you aren't very patient. Didn't you know patients is a virtue,

    Were I a doctor, I would consider patients a virtue.

    But I know what you really mean. On the contrary, I demonstrate a great deal of patience with people who don't ooze that typical fundie arrogance.

    : oh that's right you don't believe in virtue, sorry.

    Yet another completely stupid statement. It has no basis in fact -- only in what you as a Christian fundamentalist have been taught to believe about non-Christians, i.e., that they have no morality, no virtue. What you fail to consider is that Christian fundamentalists specifically teach that the only reason they sometimes display morality and virtue is that their God would kill them if they didn't, and they actually acknowledge that, in the absence of such a God, they would engage in all sorts of wicked, immoral behavior. People like me, on the other hand, behave well towards others in normal life not because of such threats, but because it's the "right" thing to do. "Right" by what standards? By the human social standards that have evolved over tens of millions of years in primate societies. What's sad about this is that you Christian fundamentalists can so easily slough off these built-in standards by arguing that you really have none, but do "right" only because you fear the wrath of your God.

    AlanF

  • freetosee
    freetosee

    I am not, nor have I ever on this thread tried to trick or deceive people. I am not playing games. If you asked a question with honesty, please give me the same courtesy, otherwise don't ask me, and I will concentrate on others who are asking questions to find answers.

    steve

    I think Steve is very genuine in his postings.

    fts

  • AlanF
    AlanF

    acsot said:

    : AlanF, your post about climate disruptions was very illuminating.

    This was one of the things that truly astounded me when I first learned it about 15 years ago. It was one of my personal watersheds in understanding how little I had known.

    Don't worry -- the more you learn about the beauty in our universe through understanding how things work, and the real history of how things came to be, the more interesting it gets. That's why JWs and other fundamentalists tend to get bored with science. They already know everything they need to know, so there's no point in further learning. If they're naturally lazy to begin with, this reinforces it.

    AlanF

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