Voting with their wallet

by SirNose586 29 Replies latest jw friends

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  OnTheWayOut

  I will say it is not dishonest. The numbers are all there, you just need to
  learn to read them (or write them down lightning fast).
  It is greedy and misleading. They count on publishers hearing this, and
  the ones who spent almost all their money to get to the assembly, who
  decided to give a small amount, will break out the checkbook, after all,
  there is still a major deficit. They don't really analyze the part where it was said
  that there was 14,000 Dollars on hand at the start of the assembly.

  Yes, I suspect that pressure will be placed on circuits to cover the lower
  donations to World Wide Work, by asking them to vote more money to WTS
  at the business meeting at Circuit Assemblies. Conventions and Assemblies
  are huge cash-cows for WTS, but the numbers are incorporated into the whole
  so people don't really notice them.
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  willyloman

  Then I guess every elder who has been to one of those meetings must know why a deficit is announced.

  That's a good guess. The numbers announced at the assembly bear no relation to reality. The business meeting the night before is where the numbers are cooked. It goes like this:

  Accounts Servant: Brothers, the report shows we have $10,000 on hand or on deposit with the Society. Last assembly, we sent the Society $3,000. Would you brothers like to send the same amount this time?"

  Someone-in-audience: So moved.

  Someone else: Second.

  Chairman: All in favor?

  Everyone-in-the-room: Aye.

  Accounts Servant: So, that leaves $7,000. We'll also need a motion to pay the expenses of the CO, DO, and the traveling brother from Bethel, as well as some miscellaneous costs. (This is itemized and comes to around $3,700, including the expenses for the CO's car and insurance; the motion carries unanimously).

  Accounts Servant: All right, thank you, brothers. That leaves us with a balance of $3,257.60. It is estimated that additional convention expenses (renting the facility, insurance, etc.) will be about $4,500. That would leave us with a deficit of $1,242.40.

  ...And that forms the basis for the next day's "accounts report" from the platform. Once the "deficit" is announced, the guilt-ridden dubs do the math and stuff money and checks into the contribution boxes. Result? The boys leave the assembly site with the same $10,000 they came with.
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  RedPill2006

  I always found those "business meetings" odd and useless! As an elder I stopped assisting for the last couple ass-emblies, because there was no point to ask for a vote if everybody is expected to "aye" that.

  JUST GRAB THE MONEY YOU BASTARDS, and don't pretend you've "asked" for it. and again they can say "it was the witnesses that desperately wanted to DONATE that money VOLUNTARILY".......

  .......when did Jesus have his Business meetings with his followers.

  Judas: Well, the Lord has told me to read the costs of the last trip. We have 300 in Bread, 500 in Fish and 8945 in Miscellaneous costs (mischivious grin).

  Peter; Well, for what are the Misc????

  Everybody else: astonished looks in they're faces.... We motion the resolution.....

  Man. Those meetings are utter BS. As an elder I always wondered that the announcement is given on a Sunday Morning, everybody gets emotionally charged and in the money that comes in on the afternoon or after the assembly (as people count the leftover from an already expensive weekend) are stashed into the boxes. Since the assembly is over that money is counted AFTERWARDS and "carried over" to the next meeting. At my circuit that money could well been "eaten away" between one assembly and the other. It was always some money that might be in the account, fair enough. But is mentioned at the beginning of the NEXT ass-embly, but since the new ass-embly started, the costs eat that away....

  Its sneaky.

  RedPill.
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  Leolaia

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  km 6/98 p.6 par.20 Caring for the Master’s Belongings ***

  No collection plates are passed in Kingdom Halls or at assemblies. No solicitations for funds are sent to individuals. No fund-raisers are hired.

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  w85 12/1 p.22 Do You Honor Jehovah With Your Valuable Things? ***

  Others are likewise amazed when, attending a Witness assembly or visiting a Kingdom Hall for the first time, they find that no collection is ever taken. How, then, is the witness work financed? The answer: through voluntary contributions from those who want to honor Jehovah with their valuable things.

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  w77 10/1 p.603 The Christian Congregation and Its Operation ***

  At the meetings of Jehovah’s Witnesses no collection plates are passed, and no solicitation of money is ever made.
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  willyloman

  ...no collection plates are passed, and no solicitation of money is ever made.

  Right. Why settle for mere solicitation when shame works so much better?
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  Irreverent

  I alway liked the arrangement where elders would "anonymously" walk up the the CO or DO after the elder's meeting and hand them envelopes of money. All "anonymously" of course.
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  OnTheWayOut

  I alway liked the arrangement where elders would "anonymously" walk up the the CO or DO after the elder's meeting and hand them envelopes of money. All "anonymously" of course.

  This is not limited to elders. You obviously did not have many brothers who wished to be elders/MS in your congregation.
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  SirNose586

  I alway liked the arrangement where elders would "anonymously" walk up the the CO or DO after the elder's meeting and hand them envelopes of money. All "anonymously" of course.

  Don't they call that simony? I did a #4 on that, you know!
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  Athanasius

  I dropped $6.00 into the contribution box at the last District Assembly that I attended. Gave them two crisp Chuck Russell three dollar bills.
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  V

  WT Money, print it yourself!