A couple of years ago I sat next to a moslem lady on a flight from Dubai to London. She was fully veiled and was travelling with her two children, one being a baby. After a few hours she whipped her top up to reveal her breasts and then started feeding her baby. I was very glad that she was feeding her baby in the best way, but I found it bizarre that she wasn't happy for me and other men to see her face but didn't have a problem showing her breasts.
Veil Wearing Moslems v Cross Wearing Christians
by Clam 23 Replies latest social current
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Dansk
Clam:
I was very glad that she was feeding her baby in the best way, but I found it bizarre that she wasn't happy for me and other men to see her face but didn't have a problem showing her breasts.
Where've you been? You're a Brit for goodness sake! Haven't you heard the expression: "You don't look at the mantlepiece when you're poking the fire"?
Ian
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Clam
Ian !
You Mancs are a wicked lot.
LOL
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stillajwexelder
political correctness can go too far -s oI hope this does not escalate
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Qcmbr
Religion is within and shouldn't require an outward symbol as an integral part. When outward symbols are required they should be kept within the confines of home or church not pushed in the face of others. We have standards of dress in public that range from having to actually wear clothes through to not allowing 'hoodies' in some shopping areas. As a christian I find the cross a nasty symbol anyway but the veil itself is even worse to me - an absolute symbol of the secondary status of women within the cultures that this religion would cite as its home - we've spent years overcoming the dominance of men imposed by a culture inspired by medieval christianity and now we have to start all over again. When our women visit their cultures they feel no shame at forcing them to wear a scarf and so in our culture we should not have to suffer the absolute insult of covering ones face while talking. If I walked down the street with an IRA style balaclava most people would be very intimidated and disgusted by my attitude. In the UK most people bend over backwards to accomodate people of differing faiths but when those faiths themselves seek absolutely to avoid integration it is time to kick back. Its time for a UK law that stops all religious expression and symbolism within public places(schools for example) except without licence (specific parades, holidays etc..). This is not persecution of a minority it is actually to stop the minority persecuting the majority. Grr.
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daystar
May I say that I would not be allowed to wear a cross around my neck for work. In fact I'm not allowed to wear any jewelry except for a watch, wedding band and stud earrings. It's not a problem for me or any of my colleagues because we understand that we look far more professional this way.
The woman who works for British Airways should GET A LIFE. Wear what you want out of work but do what your employers ask of you in their time - they are paying your wages after all.I think this is preposterous. I can understand an employer having a problem with one were to push their religion down another's throat, but simply wearing a piece of jewelry (tasteful and a bit discreet)??!!
An employer may pay my wages to work for them, but they couldn't pay me enough to tell me I couldn't wear some personally symbolic piece of jewelry. Well, if it were for safety reasons, I could understand a "no jewelry" policy, but that's about it.
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greendawn
Banning the cross at the work place in a Christian country is way out of line, I don't think anyone would mind a Moslem wearing the semi crescent but the face veil goes too far, why do the Moslems fear feminine beauty so much? Isn't that a sign of immaturity not being able to control sexual desire from looking at a face? Bikinis can be difficult but not a woman's face.
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PoppyR
My mum is using this veil wearing stuff as proof armageddon is nigh!!! She said to me this morning that it was in the news every day. I just raised my eyebrows and reminded her there was a similar hoo haa about 6 months ago when muslim girls were suspended from school.
As to not being able to understand a veiled woman, it's total garbage, I worked with a muslim girl who wore the full veil, and I understood her conversation perfectly, as did everyone else. I do feel everyone should be able to express themselves in the way they want. why should we have the right to dictate? I personally highly respected her. She was a gorgeous young girl who covered herself up totally because of her beliefs. It's not my choice, but I admire the dedication.
Surely it's better to show children that we can accept people from all different beliefs and cultures?
Poppy
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LongHairGal
How about crossing a street? How does a woman with a full veil cross a street without getting hit by a car? The cars don't care about you.
Your head has to be swiveled around to see everyithing and you have to be wearing sneakers so you can run for your life. How the hell does one do this if they are wearing this get-up?? It is insane, really.
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LittleToe
Ian:
There was a Muslim man on Question Time (BBC) last week and he said the veil is not stipulated in the Koran, so is NOT religious, but is a cultural dress.
Wearing a cross is not stipulated in the Bible and while for some it's just jewellry I think you'd agree it's a religous icon