Do you truly WANT the Watchtower to collapse? If so why?

by nicolaou 51 Replies latest jw friends

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  R6Laser

  Most of us aren't bitter or selfish enough to want personal revenge against the Watchtower but I'd be lying if I said I didn't sometimes think like that.

  Well, looking at a high percentage of posts here it seems that bitterness and personal revenge is a big reason why most want the WTS to collapse.

  I'll admit it, when I first got out of their clutches I was mad, bitter and maybe angry. But now thinking back I just say to myself, I don't beleive I let them do that to me. Because that's what it basically boils down to, you letting them do what they want with your life. All I had to do when presented with a stupid rule or something that I didn't want to follow was say no.

  But now, I don't really care, and I don't wish them to collapse. The past is gone, nothing I can do about that, now I just live my life without worrying about what somebody else might say or think about me. Holding a grudge or bitterness can be worse in the end.
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  AuldSoul

  R6Laser,

  They still have my wife, and you are incredibly naive.
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  anewme

  If the Watchtower collapsed and freed its slaves there would be a rush of sweet air flowing out into the world as the good but imprisoned people made their way back to us and reality. And we would be there to help them.
  
  The Watchtower is a borg, a people eating machine, that consumes lives and money and gives nothing back and spews misery and lies about God, the future and mankind.
  
  
  Anewme
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  BONEZZ

  "...bitterness and personal revenge"

  Give me an EFFFING break!! You mean to tell me that if any person, corporation, government or anything else that held one of your family members under their Satanic spell, keeping them from having anything to do with you, all the while protecting their pedofile database...YOU wouldn't be out to destroy them. GET REAL!! Or maybe you don't give a rat shit about your family...or anyone else for that matter!!

  Once I get my daughter back I will not be so pro-active but I will still support those who have lost family members to this evil group of lying, pedofile supporting old men!

  Bitter? You bet I'm bitter! And it's because it's personal! Yes, they are just one of many evil groups out there...But THEY are the ones who broke up my family. I'd be just as pissed if it were Moonies or Mormons..but it wasn't. It was the only true religion chosen by Jehovah's son Jesus to show everyone else how wrong they are. F*ck you and f*ck them.

  -BONEZZ
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  Scully

  If the Watchtower collapsed and freed its slaves there would be a rush of sweet air flowing out into the world as the good but imprisoned people made their way back to us and reality.

  The problem is that most JWs do not believe themselves to be in bondage or enslaved. They believe their JW way of life is the best form of freedom available.

  Even if the Watchtower collapsed and the external cages / belief system were removed from existence, many JWs still have shackles on their minds and hearts. They will seek out another master because they cannot cope with the thought of existing independently of the external locus of control - they are dependent upon having someone or something tell them what to do, when to do it and how to do it, but not necessarily why to do it. They cannot fathom being responsible for their own choices and actions. They like that they can wiggle their way out of difficult or uncomfortable social, ethical and moral dilemmas by disengaging and claiming that it is contrary to their religion.

  As much as I would like to have my family back, I have pretty much accepted that they prefer codependence to independence and personal responsibility.
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  Uzzah

  The collapse of the Watchtower in the greater scheme of things means little.

  It means a lot to families of JW if it were to collapse. It would also provide one less environment for pedophiles to prey.

  Me? I hate them for what the WT has done to my family and the years I could have spent with my father. I hate them for the way it is screwing up another generation with my neices and nephews.

  But again I realize the fall of the Borg will not matter to the world. They don't matter now. I view it much like a death. When I die, it would be (hopefully) upsetting to family members and friends but it would have little to no impact elsewhere in the country or world.

  More people die worldwide in the average year than there are numbers of JW's worldwide.

  The WTBS is truly insignifcant.

  Uzzah
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  becca1

  To colapse by means of publicly and totally being exposed as false so that no one is in doubt would be a good thing. It's the only way most will ever be free. Will it happen? No.
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  Country Girl

  There are the abuses of course, the diabloical 'two witness' rule applied to allegations of molestation, the reckless 'blood ban' in all it's tortuous complexities (which by Watchtowers own admission has resulted in many fatalaties) and the cruel punishment of shunning which has caused so much suffering and pain to many of us here.

  And that's not enough?

  CG
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  R6Laser

  Yep, extremely bitter and angry from most of the responses here so far. Oh, and your family or whoever is in it isn't held hostage against their will. They are in it because they want to be in. The sooner you realize that the better for you.

  I understand being angry because family members are in it. My mother is still in it, I have an uncle and some cousins still in it. But they are in it because they want to, not because someone is holding them hostage.
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  R6Laser

  Bitter? You bet I'm bitter! And it's because it's personal! Yes, they are just one of many evil groups out there...But THEY are the ones who broke up my family. I'd be just as pissed if it were Moonies or Mormons..but it wasn't. It was the only true religion chosen by Jehovah's son Jesus to show everyone else how wrong they are. F*ck you and f*ck them.

  LOL, you're even bitter and angry at me over a simple post in this forum. Calm down, your bitterness and your anger will not change a thing. It will not make your family come back magically from the WTS. You're just making yourself miserable along the way.

  Learn to live with it, that's what most do. If you can't then I feel sorry for you, because while you sit typing on your keyboard acting all angry and screaming profanities at me, I'm living my life without worries about what some stupid cult might do or not do. So what if they have your family, your family is in it because they beleive in it and there's not much you can do for them. Hopefully they open up their eyes soon, but its really up to them.