by Fisherman 39 Replies latest watchtower bible
Does God communicate with you?
Well it's just a belief, but no I don't think he does. Actually I rather think he's quite forgotten about me. But then since I'm not much to start with, no small loss, eh?
But I do believe others who say he's communicated with them.
No hard, empirical evidence, just a belief.
There is an important difference in human's ability to reason and in their ability to develop an internal morality. Many creatures (with no need for an understanding of right and wrong) can perform and even practice some basic principles of cause and effect, logic, an even mathmatics. Two of the things that seperates us is our moral conscience and our desire to understand our "place" in the universe. Although science has a variety of terms to describe the absense of these traits in psychopaths, sociopaths, etc....My point is that, to the best of my knowledge, no one has ever developed even the most base of reasons for us to have developed this mental ability. This does not automatically say that since we don't know how we "got this way"... some entity must have put it in us... but that IS the best explanation that I've heard yet!
Well not lately. I am really a little afraid, that if I think I hear God, It could be schizophrenia.
Over the years I have spoken to him a lot. Never got a response (verbally), but what I asked for did come to pass a few times??
Was that his answer? I would like to think so.
How about you Fisherman?? God ever speak to you??
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Woops got the wrong name in there.
Thats a good question I often asked when Abraham heard God say to take his son up on to the mountain and slaugter him, how did he know it was God. I mean if your friend came to you and said God told him to kill his daughter and was going to do it, would you, encourage him to listen to this vioce he hears, or would you notify authorities before your friend has a chance to kill his daughter.
That's one of the problems I find into listening to vioces and concluding it is God speaking. And as reguard the bible God speaking to me, he is a little to mean for me to give much attention to what ever he has to say.
I think a person can experience what is an altered conscious state and hear what he would interpet as God speaking, but to say that it is some sort of almighty God that made everything in exisitence no I would find that hard to beleive and one would have to be carefull not to inflate his ego and let him start behaving bizare like some we see on the boards, claiming I am the christ or messiah.
Actually I don't think the what ever it is that made everything would have anything to say, it or he or her or whatever you want to call it, call it god it don't matter I don't see what would be so important to communicate except maybe cosmic consciousness of some sort which is very blissful and beyound human thought, maybe that could be it, too experience what everything is one is. I could see sommething like that as having a good effect on one, they may stumble around for a few days after such an experience depending on how deeply they went.
One could keep the right perspective of such experiences which would be very valuable to towards understanding, the trouble is how do we know a vioce is fooling us for sport or it is benign and for our guidance, I guess trial and error at best and a stroke of good luck to find the good ones instead of the practicle joker types.
He is the voice in the back of my head I should be listening to that says things like.............."beer is the only thing making you gain weight"........"smoking is just gonna give you bad breath"..................." just because that guy is cute dosen't make him a rocket scientist"................all the things a true friend would say,but we rarley listen to.
Ozzie, thank you for setting respectfull guidelines for my topic.
Ggirl Bgirl, not offended with your post. I understand that there is reason for cynicism on this topic.
I will wait to see if some other people post before I post some of my views,besides, I have to go now.
Well I guess bttt, there isn't really much I can say.
I prayed for years and years, and maybe Gordon is right, I never shut up and listened, but I think I did. I felt comforted in the short term, but I don't know what that really was. It could have just been that I was centered and quiet and content, or it could have been God, but how can you really know?
If there is a God, he's not the one Jehovah's Witnesses believe in, because how can they say that god is Love, when "He" requires them to shun and hurt their own flesh and blood unless they live up to some rigid set of rules, as dictated by some men?
At this bittersweet time in my life (bitter because I have learned that the love my JW family has for me is conditional in the deepest sense of the word; sweet because I have learned what true friendship means, and it's not JW's), I do not feel that any God is communicating with me.
I guess I had something to say after all.
"My point is that, to the best of my knowledge, no one has ever developed even the most base of reasons for us to have developed this mental ability."
Your best knowledge could use some continuing education then. Hell, I bet even you could come up with "the most base of reasons for us to have developed this mental ability" if you were forced to.
I cannot say that God communicates with me. At least I haven't been able to pick up on any purported message. Hearing a "voice" would, for me anyway, mean that I'd best consult a mental health practitioner.
I'd love to have a personal one on one
