OK girls, tell me what I did wrong.

by Abandoned 43 Replies latest social relationships

  • tijkmo
    tijkmo
    Thursday was her birthday and I was tempted to send some flowers or something but this is our first date and I didn't wan to come off too strong

    can someone please explain this...the coming on strong bit.

    if you like someone and someone likes you then it doesn't matter what you do or dont do or when...

    if i just met someone and they sent me a gift...for whatever reason i would be thrilled..i wouldnt think oh no they are way too eager and change my opinion of them..

    if i didnt like someone that much then no amount of gifts is gonna change that opinion either..

    far too much 2nd guessing and game playing goes on imo.

    just be yourself..do what you naturally want to do..someone will love you for it...and if they don't then you wont have to pretend different for the rest of ya life

  • Abandoned
    Abandoned

    Thanks for the advice tijkmo. I appreciate it. I'll think about what you wrote.

  • gordon d
    gordon d

    Hey Abandoned,

    I have to agree with some of the others... Gettin' your money and your Honey in the same place is pretty tricky.... PLUS, Why would you need to look anywhere other than JWD for a girlfriend?... The hottest, smartest, sweetest people are right here!

    IMHO+++ Before you go chasing anymore skirts... You owe it to yourself to read chapter 4 of M.Scott Peck's "The Road Less Traveled" pretty powerful stuff....

    Hang in there buddy!

  • parakeet
    parakeet

    "I just wish I knew how much of my relationship problems were actual things that I could do better and how much are related to the "I'm a liability" attitude that I learned from the wt."



  • ballistic
    ballistic
    far too much 2nd guessing and game playing goes on imo.

    The fact he asked "tell me what I did wrong" is recognition of the fact that there are rules, and behind the rules a game.

    Life can be likened to a game and there are rules in life and relationships just like there are in business and society in general.

    Playing this game by the rules is completely different to manipulative, pre-meditated messed-up-in-the-head \ and stalking type games I think you are referring to.

  • Abandoned
    Abandoned

    Thanks everyone. I'm definitely seeing things different now. I do want to see what happens when I see her next. If this is an example of what our relationship would be like, though, I don't think I'm ready for that....

  • frozen one
    frozen one

    Wow. You don't have to believe me but consider a couple of things. Why did you spend so much time talking on the phone with her? Does she live on the other side of the planet? A phone is a single woman's most powerful weapon. She can hold you at arms length while simultaneously keeping you firmly in her grasp and that is a really bad spot for any guy to find himself in. If you find yourself in entrapped by a phone call just say you got to go and hang up.

    But you are on the phone with her and toward the end you work up the courage to ask her out. That is fantastic! Make it your mission in life to ask every woman you meet out on a date. You are going to get shot down a lot but that is the point. It won't take long for you to see that getting turned down doesn't kill you. It doesn't even hurt you. You have a lot to offer any woman so if she turns you down its her loss, not yours. Once you realize that, you will not be intimidated by any woman you meet. However, you asked her out for a first date and you chose Saturday night as the night. Interesting. Conventional wisdom says this was a good thing. I strongly disagree. Saturday night is prime time so choosing a Saturday night for a first date says something about you and it isn't good. You are shouting for the whole world to hear that you have nothing better to do on a Saturday night then spend it with someone you hardly know. It gets worse. When you ask a woman out for a first date on a Saturday night you are suggesting that SHE has nothing better to do on a Saturday night then go out with some guy she barely knows. That doesn't score a lot of points for you. You are a busy guy with a full life of adventure so you will not ask a woman out for a first date on a Saturday night ever again. Even if what you just read isn't true, believe it about yourself.

    One quick thing about the date you asked her on. You wrote that you were going to meet at 6 for your date. I take that to mean you were going to meet at a bar or something and go from there. If that is what was supposed to happen, that wasn't a date. A date starts with you picking her up at her house, not meeting somewhere. Women will say, "No. Its better to meet someone at a neutral site for the first date because the man might be a serial killer or something so its the safe thing to do." The reality is if a woman is interested in you she will want you to pick her up at her house for that first date whether you are a vicious killer or not.

    Well thats my take. It doesn't really sound like she was all that interested in the first place but don't feel bad about that. So what if you got stood up? I'd predict you would'nt have had that good of a time anyway. So get out there. Its Saturday night and you are a man on the town. Flirt with anybody you fancy. Ask for a dance. Ask for some phone numbers. Laugh out loud if you get that "as if" look and move on to the next one. Go out and have some fun.

  • cyberdyne systems 101
    cyberdyne systems 101

    So what happened did you see her on Tuesday? I think the best advice has been given already - just be yourself, sure you can always learn to do things better but dont take the attitude that you are doing something wrong. Asking someone out on a date can be daunting at times - afterall your ego can be bruised, but I guess the thing is to pick yourself up and try again. Look around you and you see there are so many couple's, its possible for anyone. I'm between relationships as I speak, so I can empathise with you on your self analysis.

    CS 101

  • Crumpet
    Crumpet
    if i just met someone and they sent me a gift...for whatever reason i would be thrilled..i wouldnt think oh no they are way too eager and change my opinion of them..

    Tij - this is where guys and dolls are different. If someone started plying me with gifts and they had only just met me I'd have a big STALKER ALERT signal going off in my head.

    Maybe behind the whole "GAME PLAYING" there are scientific biological reasons. Perhaps if a guy chases a girl too much and is too keen it sets off signals to the girl that he is desperate to plant his sperm, if he is desperate is it because he has been rejected by other girls. If his sperm isn;t good enough for them why is it good enough for me. The girl goes on to hold out for the more alpha male who doesnt seem to keen/desperate .... Just a thought, but I'm on medication so could be way off beat!;-)

    You sound like a really lovely guy and you do think about what impression you are making, which is a really good start - so many guys don't! Good luck!

  • MsMcDucket
    MsMcDucket

    I think that she is scared. Go slow. Let her give you whatever clues that she gives. Don't live for her every breath, just go with the flow. I'll tell you how to get a cat mad. Bring in another woman into the mix and see if she starts asking questions.

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