Okay, here's my story.

by sundawn77 30 Replies latest jw friends

  • sundawn77
    sundawn77

    Hey all.

    First of all I want to say that I am really impressed by the warm atmosphere that this board provides. I remember when I was little and we learned about non-witnesses, and they were portrayed as children-eating, blood-drinking criminals. Okay, I exaggerate, but the connotations were there!

    I'm 24, and I'm single, and I have been away for 3 years. My parents got married in 1975, and believed that Armageddon would come that year. In fact, my father was persuaded to drop out of university (he was taking hospital administration, which apparently "wouldn't be useful" in Armageddon) to take a job as a construction worker (which would be ever so useful in the new system). So you can imagine how our financial situation was growing up. Absolute hell. Mom worked as a secretary before my sisters and I were born, but they couldn't afford daycare on dad's salary so she stayed home. These are two people who were top of their class in high school (mom was voted "most likely to be successful), reduced to living on hardly anything.

    Because we were poor, our wealthy congregation often snubbed us. Make that mostly snubbed us. I remember after the Memorial every year there would be masses of people going to some elder's house and we would not be invited. I still can't figure it out. What was wrong with us? I know now that there was nothing wrong with us, but we were just not part of that extensive group of families in our circuit whose companies fed off of each other; making them all extremely wealthy. There were many families in the 7-figure income bracket in our region, and everybody knew it. Mom and Dad both became depressed, because they felt that they were doing something wrong and so "Jehovah was not blessing them".

    The trouble began when my older sister was about 12. She began to be bullied by the kids in our hall; they would laugh at her and make sure that she knew about the parties that were going on that she wasn't invited to. The congregations would put on those hellish dances and she would be the only one not asked to dance, in front of everyone and their parents. Naturally this contributed to her having immense self-esteem problems that have continued until today (she is 28 now). She tried through her teen years to fit in, and as I grew older I remember how absolutely used she would be by those kids, who would be chosen to give demonstrations and yet would drive by our house in cars and honk to let my sister know that she was not invited to whatever party they were on their way to.

    When I was 19 or so, I finally began to date (I guess I was pretty enough to have my poor background overlooked, at first anyways). However, I made the mistake of breaking up with one guy and dating another one a few months later. That's right, I dated 2 guys. And I became known as the biggest slut in our circuit. I was screamed at, called a whore and a skank, shunned completely from social gatherings and the craziest stories about my "sexual misconduct" began to circulate. Going to the elders would have just made it worse for me, so I dumped the guy and kept my head down. The silly part is that the farthest I went with both of those guys was kissing. Why are JW girls so vicious?

    At this point I decided to take the scholarship I won from University and go to school. The pinched faces of the elders and their wives at the hall made me feel awful, yet this seed of defiance in me was growing and I genuinely liked school. I was meeting normal people and they were amazing. They thought I was nice and smart and funny and didn't care about who my parents were or what my spiritual standing was. Best of all, they didn't think that I was a loser for not being married yet!

    Then, I met my boyfriend. The second I saw him I knew that I was going to love him. And I do. Trouble is...he was Catholic (the devil's religion ). Not a practicing one, but a Catholic all the same. And that's when the trouble started. After a year, I slept with him because I loved him and I was...uh...normal? But i was trying to live both lives and it was killing me. So for some reason, I told my mother (who I am close to), and she insisted that I tell the elders. To her credit, I don't think that she thought the elders would react like they did. The Judicial Committee was awful. Horrible. The questions they asked... Were the lights on or off? Did you use a condom? You did? So you planned to have sex? Where were you? What position did you use? Where did he touch you? How many times did you do it? They asked me that one at least 3 or 4 times throughout the meetings, like they were trying to get me to admit that I'm a dirty whore who did it twice. Which we did. But I knew that while once was forgivable, twice meant you're out. My parents would have been heartbroken if I was DF'd. So I lied through my teeth through all those meetings with those men in suits, who glared at me and humiliated me in a locked, windowless conference room. They reproved me, as I knew they would, on the condition that I would dump my boyfriend. They made me promise it. I promised, walked out, and never went back.

    Thanks to the Witnesses, I have parents who tell me repeatedly that they are disappointed in me and can never unconditionally love me, even though I've begged them for that so many times that at one point I drove myself to the ER because I knew I was going to kill myself. I am financially independent, have bailed them out financially, skipped grades, won a scholarship, have 2 degrees with honors, and I volunteer all over the community. And they still tell me they are disappointed in me. So I cry in the shower because I can't win; I can't be a JW and dead inside for them. I have to be myself. Do these feelings ever go away? Will I ever make them see that I'm a good person? Please help me.

    Thanks for listening,

    Sundawn

  • BabaYaga
    BabaYaga

    *dOh*

    If you weren't finished and you want to go back and add to it, mouse over the topic on your posting, you will see that a little menu pops up including "edit". Click that and it brings you back to your post in the typing field.

    *******************

    Okay... I'm back and just edited to add a comment now that your story is there!

    Dear gods, Honey, how awful. First of all, I'm so happy you are here. It's amazing how supportive this place can be.

    Secondly, I'M PROUD OF YOU, dammit. Your parents may not be proud of your scholarships and kudos and honors... but let me tell you... I'm proud of all of those things... (CONGRATULATIONS!!!) and above all else, I'm mostly proud that you could see the cult for what it is and extricate yourself. Honey, that's not small potatoes. THAT'S AMAZING. YOU ROCK.

    So you give yourself a pat on the back and hold your head high, my Darlin'. You are a strong and reasoning one.

    Thirdly, I'm so, so sorry your parents are being so horrible and cruel. Know this: IT GETS BETTER. IT GETS EASIER. With parents treating you that way, the pain may never go away, but it really does get easier. It is not outside of the realm of possibility that your parents will interact with you again or maybe even wake up and leave the organization themselves. But... who needs the frustration of hope. In the meantime... love the ones who love and appreciate YOU, and all you represent, with your ideas and achievements.

    Take care, Hon.
    Hugs
    Baba.

  • Abandoned
    Abandoned

    OMG! BabaYaga, you just about had me spraying hot chocolate all over my computer.

  • BabaYaga
    BabaYaga

    HAHHAHAHahahaha Abandoned, now YOU have ME laughing!!!

    Jes' tryin' ta be helpful...

    (tee hee)
    Baba.

  • sundawn77
    sundawn77

    Hee.

    Yeah, I hit Enter right off the bat and it posted it. Me so smrt.

  • juni
    juni

    What a story! But it is all familiar because my kids suffered the same thing growing up in the organization.

    But you are a survivor and you are to be commended for all of your achievements that you've made on your own!!!

    Apparently your folks want to be door mats. They have no boundaries as far as how they are treated by others. They have made their choice. As long as it is to stay a puppet for the WTB&TS you are going to be considered the "bad guy".

    I would say go on w/your life, associate w/those who respect you and treat you kindly. If your parents want to have a relationship w/you they have to follow through. They had as adults the choice to become JWs. You didn't. You no doubt were baptized at a young age probably trying to please mom and dad or to be accepted by friends.

    There are a lot of people here who are in the same place you are. It does hurt!

    I encourage you to keep reading at this forum. It will help you deal w/this situation.

    Hugs,

    Juni

  • Effervescent
    Effervescent

    First of all- *big hugs*

    I've been in your shoes as far as being on the hamster wheel of parental approval and affection. It does get better with time, but the pain never really goes away completely. It's just very important you surround yourself with the one's who will support and love you no matter what, and try not to dwell on your family's hateful actions. Blood is not thicker than water. Your friends are for real, family is just a trick of genetics. That's my excuse anyways!

    You are much stronger than you know. You've already come so far! Realize that you are above their pettiness now, and you have your whole life ahead of you... whereas they do not. Personally, I've realized my JW family are a bunch of emotional leeches, and I refuse to subject myself to their abuse. Any of them who are still speaking to me don't even know much about my life. I don't open it up to their scrutiny. I actually have a sign in the entryway to my house that sums it up- "Friends Welcome- Relatives by Appointment Only".

    YOU know you're a good person, we know you're a GREAT person, and your friends LOVE you. Build on that and it will take you far!

  • ballistic
    ballistic

    Thanks for sharing sundawn. Sounds like you are on track! Of course, everyone makes their own path in the world without their parents sooner or later, and it can come as a shock when we discover they are not infallible, or actually always right about anything.

  • Quandry
    Quandry

    Thank you for posting your story.

    I was wondering, do your parents know the kind of humiliating, intensely personal questions the elders asked? What was the purpose of delving into the position you used and precisely where he touched you? Do your parents know how they made you feel? I feel that they should know all the sordid questioning used. How were these "spiritual shepherds" attempting to "help" you and "restore" you to the congregation by the demeaning way they treated you? Rest assured you are not the first to be asked these type of questions and unfortunately will not be the last. My own teenage daughter was accused of fornication for over two hours even though she had not committed it. They called her a liar and she was disfellowshipped, after brutally degraded treatment.

    Please continue on the good course you are on. We on this forum are proud of you, as I'm sure many others are.

    I am thinking that deep down your parents are proud of your accomplishments but are so blinded by the dogmatism of the WTS that they are not able to express it. Someday I hope they will. You have excelled in your studies. You are a contributing member of society. You mention that you have been the wonderful daughter that even helped your parents out of financial binds.

    It is natural to want the approval of your parents. I am so sorry that they have not expressed to you their pride in you. You deserve it very much. I am sorry you had to go through what you did with the men in the back room. Rest assured you are a precious person in the eyes of God and Jesus. Even though I am through with the WTS I still believe that all of us have worth in the eyes of God, and that Jesus loves us all.

    Some days are down for all of us who were mistreated by the ones who should have shown love love for us if they truly were God's people. Some days are better. I hope that you begin to have more "better" days.

    Please pm me anytime you need encouragement. I would like to be there for you.

  • sundawn77
    sundawn77

    I really am not trying to make myself out to be a saint. Because I sure am not. I love my parents and want them in my life, which is part of the problem of why I am depressed. But they are willfully ignorant of what I try to tell them and believe that this control tactic is what is best. Blahhhhh.

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