Okay, here's my story.

by sundawn77 30 Replies latest jw friends

  • sass_my_frass
    sass_my_frass

    Sundawn

    (that was a group hug... welcome to the board!)

    ah bugger I had copied a few sentences that were identical to my experience; about confessing to your parents and the JC. I could have written that myself, it was horrid hey.

    Hearty congratulations to you on the study and what you have made of yourself - however you feel, you're one of the success stories that I love to hear. Few people will understand that it doesn't matter what you do, some of us have poisonous families who can't accept us.

    These people we love and we want to love us, they don't deserve the honour we pay them. Whether they reject us out of ignorance, fear, or contempt isn't important - the point is that they're family and they're supposed to be there for us. Instead they fail us in every way. As I'm growing a little I'm finding that I need their approval less and less all the time.

    Hold your head high girl - you're going to get better!

  • Madame Quixote
    Madame Quixote

    (((Sundawn))) - Welcome to this community and thanx for sharing your story. I am terribly sorry for your humiliation by the stupid elders. (Like someone else told me last year, someday, someone is going to take those guys and give them what they deserve - a big hosing with silly string. They're such frigging voyeurs, aren't they?) I'm also sorrier about the situation with your parents. It always hurts to be treated like that, but keeping a good deal of distance from them, after a while, I have found, helps to ease the pain. The more I try to be close to my JW family, or to please or appease them, the more unhappy I am; that's because they are sick and because their sickness helps me to become sicker, too. Staying away and accepting that it is healthier for me has been the best course of action, for me. I am not subjected to their degrading ideas, opinions, superstition, mistrust, denial, and unsupportiveness if I stay away. After all, that's what they want me to do, so as not to contaminate them with healthier ideas which create cognitive dissonance (=pain) for them. Believe me, I've tried to be around them, hoping they'd change and accept me and love me as I am. But as long as the WTBTS has a stranglehold on them, they will be incapable of that. Maybe your parents are the exception, but based on what you've said, I feel doubt that you will be able to change them, no matter what you achieve in "the world," because they view "the world" (what's outside the bOrg) as a "sinking ship." I'm sure you've heard that analogy among the JWs before. And in their minds you're on that "sinking ship." But all of us here realize the opposite is true. The WBTS is a sinking ship, as it should be. Maybe you will be able to be there for them when they finally realize that ironic fact; until then, we are here for you. YOU should be proud of YOU! And of your accomplishments. I hope and trust that you are! Hugs to you!

  • crazyblondeb
    crazyblondeb

    Thanks for sharing!! I had those kind of JC's when I was still a virgin!!

    bighug

  • misguided
    misguided
    The questions they asked... Were the lights on or off? Did you use a condom? You did? So you planned to have sex? Where were you? What position did you use? Where did he touch you? How many times did you do it? They asked me that one at least 3 or 4 times throughout the meetings, like they were trying to get me to admit that I'm a dirty whore who did it twice.

    Ohhh...yes....I, too have sat through this type of interrogation. I NEVER expected a JC to be so full of personal questions. I mean, what difference does it make...I'd done the deed I'd confessed to. What difference do all the gorry details make??? Actually, this was one of my first "awakening" moments. When they started to ask these crazy questions, I thought, Jehovah knew what I had done, why do I need to describe it to you three human men?

    I am thinking that deep down your parents are proud of your accomplishments but are so blinded by the dogmatism of the WTS that they are not able to express it. Someday I hope they will

    I hope and wish for this...and I do think this is true.

    Why are JW girls so vicious?

    because they're secretly jealous of you.

    Thanks to the Witnesses, I have parents who tell me repeatedly that they are disappointed in me and can never unconditionally love me, even though I've begged them for that so many times that at one point I drove myself to the ER because I knew I was going to kill myself. I am financially independent, have bailed them out financially, skipped grades, won a scholarship, have 2 degrees with honors, and I volunteer all over the community

    You know what, Sundawn? You know you did the right thing. You're smart. You're caring. You're genuine. You deserve honour!

    I can totally relate to the driving myself to the ER because I knew I was going to kill myself. I've done this myself...although never making it to the ER for fear of bringing reproach upon Jehovah's name...oh geeze!!!

    I can't say it ever goes away...So far, I still battle this battle every day. But realize YOU are NORMAL and deserve respect. Your family is CRAZY...like mine!

    Rose

  • misguided
    misguided
    The questions they asked... Were the lights on or off? Did you use a condom? You did? So you planned to have sex? Where were you? What position did you use? Where did he touch you? How many times did you do it? They asked me that one at least 3 or 4 times throughout the meetings, like they were trying to get me to admit that I'm a dirty whore who did it twice.

    Ohhh...yes....I, too have sat through this type of interrogation. I NEVER expected a JC to be so full of personal questions. I mean, what difference does it make...I'd done the deed I'd confessed to. What difference do all the gorry details make??? Actually, this was one of my first "awakening" moments. When they started to ask these crazy questions, I thought, Jehovah knew what I had done, why do I need to describe it to you three human men?

    I am thinking that deep down your parents are proud of your accomplishments but are so blinded by the dogmatism of the WTS that they are not able to express it. Someday I hope they will

    I hope and wish for this...and I do think this is true.

    Why are JW girls so vicious?

    because they're secretly jealous of you.

    Thanks to the Witnesses, I have parents who tell me repeatedly that they are disappointed in me and can never unconditionally love me, even though I've begged them for that so many times that at one point I drove myself to the ER because I knew I was going to kill myself. I am financially independent, have bailed them out financially, skipped grades, won a scholarship, have 2 degrees with honors, and I volunteer all over the community

    You know what, Sundawn? You know you did the right thing. You're smart. You're caring. You're genuine. You deserve honour!

    I can totally relate to the driving myself to the ER because I knew I was going to kill myself. I've done this myself...although never making it to the ER for fear of bringing reproach upon Jehovah's name...oh geeze!!!

    I can't say it ever goes away...So far, I still battle this battle every day. But realize YOU are NORMAL and deserve respect. Your family is CRAZY...like mine!

    Rose

  • skyking
    skyking

    Understand stay awhile and find out all the stuff the BORG does not want you to know.

  • FreeGirl2006
    FreeGirl2006

    I don't know if the pain from family rejecting you ever goes away, but you will find people to bring into your life that will become your family. It sounds nightmarish with the elders, but I am not surprised. You should have heard the ridiculous grilling I got when I went before them at age 10 to tell them about the sexual abuse I was suffering at the hands of one of their own. I hate that whole arrangement.

    You have found a good place to come and be comfortable and to speak freely...something you are never encouraged or allowed to do with the JW's.

    Sounds like you have a solid life...enjoy it...and you are making a mockery of the dubs belief that apart from the organization you cannot possibly have a good life.

  • fullofdoubtnow
    fullofdoubtnow

    (((((sundawn)))))

    Welcome to the forum.

    Thankyou so much for sharing your story. No matter what your parents think, you have much to be proud of. If they can't see that, they are missing out. I am so happy for you that you have broke free from the shackles of the org and made something of your life. I wish you all the happiness you truly deserve.

    love

    Linda

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    I am financially independent, have bailed them out financially, skipped grades, won a scholarship, have 2 degrees with honors, and I volunteer all over the community. And they still tell me they are disappointed in me. So I cry in the shower because I can't win; I can't be a JW and dead inside for them. I have to be myself.

    The truth is in this final statement. In the end you must be true to yourself, regardless of the consequences. You've proven yourself strong where most people are weak. This strength will carry you through your whole life long.

    Will I ever make them see that I'm a good person?

    Maybe not. You will have to get your validation elsewhere. You ARE a good person. Your work is not invisible, except to them.

    Do these feelings ever go away?

    I think so. I managed to reconcile to my narcicisstic mom. First of all, I let my dreams of a loving mom die. Then I accepted the small ways I could relate to her. Then she warmed up, changed. So it took both of us doing some major changes. It took about fifteen years.

  • jaguarbass
    jaguarbass

    ,

    Sundawn, I think those elders are real sickos asking you those kind of questions. I am sorry you had to have an experience like that.

    Thanks to the Witnesses, I have parents who tell me repeatedly that they are disappointed in me and can never unconditionally love me, Do these feelings ever go away? Will I ever make them see that I'm a good person? Please help me.

    You might not ever make your parents change their mind. The good news is the feelings can go away when you change your mind. You are the only one you can control. You need to change your thinking, reprogram yourself that your parents approval is not necessary to your well being. Its sad that this religion has caused this situation for you. But there are people whos parents dont give their children approval regardless of any religious interference. You could try reading "your erroneous zones" by Dr. Wayne Dyer. And the "road less traveled" by M. Scott Peck. Good luck on your journey.

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