Is marriage an outdated institution

by free2beme 28 Replies latest jw friends

  • misguided
    misguided
    It's not something I would ever do again. Yes, mark my words.

    Lonelysheep...I've felt this way too. I've said those very words.

    Until I met the most unbelievable man that came into my life. I adore him. He treats me well, my kids well (all 6 of 'em), and we're truly connected. I've NEVER had this before.

    I failed at marriages twice. Both JW. This one not. We met 1 1/2 years ago, unbelievably, at a Lou Gramm (Foreigner) concert. He just sat down beside me and started talking. The rest is history.

    I NEVER thought I'd do it again, but 3 weeks ago when he proposed I said "YES!" I have no second thoughts. I know we're partners for life. Now it's something I will do again. No dates are set yet. But, the committment itself just feels so comforting.

    Don't give up on love...

    rose

  • unbeliever
    unbeliever

    Don't give up on love...

    Just because a person does not want to get married does not mean they have given up on love.

  • garybuss
    garybuss

    In antiquity, marriage was important for the ownership of property since a woman couldn't own property, the only way she could own property was to be married and her husband held the title.

    The issue of virginity of the female partner was also a property ownership issue because the family didn't want the future inherited property to be owned by the bastard son or daughter of a non family member.

    Marriage was about money, property and pedigree. Love and romance was a separate and different issue.

  • LittleToe
    LittleToe

    Gawd you guys are cerebral and materialist.

    If all marriage is about is a business contract and property rights then I'm going to have to say "never"

  • DocBob
    DocBob

    All of the discussion as to whether marriage is primarily a legal or romantic institution aside, I have to say that for me marriage is definitely NOT outdated. On November 25, it will be 33 years since I married my high school sweetheart, my best friend, my life partner. December 27 will be the 40th anniversary of our first date. Our marriage has survived 22 years as JWs, not having children (primarily because of being JWs), and numerous other rough spots that don't need to be enumerated here. She's into Tai Chi, I am not. She's into gardening, I'm not. I'm a born again Christian, she's not. I'm into computers, she's getting there :)

    We both enjoy good food, good wine, backpacking, canoeing, kayaking, motorcycling and camping together. How many other wives would be thrilled with a good Buck knife for an anniversary present or a motorcycle for Christmas?

    For those of you have had to endure failed marriages, I don't really know what to say except, I'm sorry. I'm not totally ignorant when it comes to failed marriages. Many of the young couples that became JWs when we did in the early 1970s are now divorced. My Mom and Dad were on the verge of divorce when I was in my early 20's (the same time I became a JW). Presently, I am the only one of four siblings that is married. My brother is twice divorced and has been living with his SO for several years. One sister is divorced and living with her SO for several years. My other sister recently broke off with the father of her daughter, whom she never married, after 26 years.

    What makes the difference? I don't know all the factors. I do know that a commitment to each other and a commitment to the institution of marriage when the commitment to each other seems hopeless is important. We probably could have divorced on a number of occasions and for a number of reasons, but we didn't. Now, in our mid-50's we are enjoying life and each other more than ever.

    My wife read this, and approves this message :)

  • YoursChelbie
    YoursChelbie
    We probably could have divorced on a number of occasions and for a number of reasons, but we didn't. Now, in our mid-50's we are enjoying life

    Congratulations DocBob!

    Out of all the failing and mistakes a person can do in a marriage I think all can be undone and forgiven with the exception of adultery (either physical or deep emotional involvement with someone else, if you know what I mean.) That one thing can't be undone. It would be what I'd consider the last nail in the coffin for a marriage.

    YC

  • sass_my_frass
    sass_my_frass

    I'm very happy with mine, but... whatever floats your boat!

  • LtCmd.Lore
    LtCmd.Lore

    -Marriage turns lovers into relatives...

    -Marriage is a wonderfull intsitution. But who wants to live in an institution?

    -You don't know what true happiness is untill you're married, but then it's too late...

    -Marriage: A community consisting of a master, a mistress, and two slaves, making in all, two.

    -Marriage is the chief cause of divorce.

    -Marriage is the triumph of imagination over intelligence.

    -How marriage ruins a man! It is as demoralizing as cigarettes, and far more expensive.

    Neadless to say I have a very low opinion of monogamy.

    If you want to spend your whole life with somebody then, by all means, do so. But what possible use would there be for a legal paper that would only serve to make things more difficult later on if either of you changed your mind?

  • seawolf
    seawolf

    This thread is depressing.

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