HAVE JWS RUINED YOUR LIFE??????

by chuckyy 43 Replies latest jw friends

  • Anitar
    Anitar

    Hondo: There was a time when I would say I wish I could wave a magic wand to take your pain away. I have tried to help my mom in a similar situation as your wife but to no avail. The sad truth is the Jehovah Witnesses knew us better than we knew ourselves.

    How can I make such an insensitive observation? Because they've been thoroughly trained and indoctrinated into an elaborately complex form of psychological manipulation techniques that they've perfected over 130 years. The reason we failed as family members is because the indoctrination was always one step ahead of us. They know how 90 percent of the people will react when they hear their loved one is becoming a JW, they flip out, and I was no exception. This is perfectly understandable. There is nothing but bad news about the watchtower in the media all over the world, and on some level, the average witness is aware of this. On one hand, it's important to alert the world to the dangers of this cult, but on the other hand it only adds fuel to the fire of the rank and file. It makes them even more fanatic because they have a persecution complex and they see this as confirmation of the watchtower's claims, and the cycle of brainwashing only gets stronger.

    Why am I telling you this since you probably already know it? I want to let you know that what happened to your wife and my mom was not our fault. We did nothing wrong. We stood up for what was right and responded the only way we knew how. We were not trained experts in dealing with cults. Some of us may be now, but I would gladly trade all of my knowledge for just one chance reach my mom, the real person I knew long ago, not the brain-dead, talking mannequin that has taken her place.

    God teaches us (or at least I think he does) to fight for those we care about, to never give up hope when we know the terrible truth about someone else. Bob Dylan one said you have to rage against the dying of the light. But what will we lose in the process? Our families, our minds, or even our lives? After all, we can't prevent what we can't predict. I've since come to believe that the end result is not as important as the struggle itself. If God has a bigger plan for us, it can take a lifetime to see it, especially when it seems he has abandoned us when we needed him the most. Maybe our destiny is to alert the world to the evil of this organization until it becomes so infested with bureaucracy and xenophobia that it destroys itself from with, and that sounds just fine to me.

    So in conclusion, I won't try to take away your pain because you need your pain, we all do. Without it we would be unaware of the true meaning of life, and that is the Watchtower is absolutely meaningless in the grand scheme of things. We however, are not. We are more than just the sum of broken families and mental and physical scars. We have knowledge, and whatever else they may rob from us, they can never, ever take that away.

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  • Abandoned
    Abandoned

    I can't say they ruined (past tense) my life since I still have some left and I'm finally getting healing, but they have done SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE. I won't rehash my story in this thread, but I'm stunted in a number of areas due to the crap they fed me. I have to accept the blame for starting to study with them, but since they use underhanded methods to indctrinate their people, I blame them more.

    I wouldn't have given up my $30,000 college fund from the army if I'd have known the truth about their false prophecy, misuse of the bible, history of hypocritical advice, sheer number of flip flopping doctrines, intimidation tactics, proclivity toward arrogance, and other dysfunctional crap.

  • Deleted
    Deleted

    No they haven't. We were converts so we had a life outside the jaydub phony-world, a life that we could go back to and continue careers and education. Absolutely the best thing we could do, so we won't let jaydubdum get to us much. Even 8 years "out" (after 17 years "in") we get "looked through" when we try to make eye contact with former "friends". It took a while to make friends again, and largely we are loners so it doesn't matter much to have a lot of friends anyway. The two benefits that I credit the jaydub experience are: being able to study tedious material, and color-in in the key points; and public speaking, trying to enliven boring topics. Our kids came through it well, both with solid post-HiSchool education and realistic career goals, they are very fine students which I credit the jaydub experience to some degree. But that's about all I credit it, I wish they hadn't had to experience thinking that their parents would let them die than have a blood transfusion, a fact I learned much later with my son - who finally did believe me that I said I didn't use to sign the blood card and he would have been quite safe. Life does indeed go on. Glen & Jill

  • Trotsky
    Trotsky

    Try to be positive and ask: Have JWs improved your live? I can say yes to many things as Bible knowledge and I met many very good people. What about you?

  • anewme
    anewme

    In everyone's life there are obstacles to success. Everyone experiences setbacks, EVERYONE.
    To list all the disappointments in our life would be a very long list.

    I really believe the successful person looks at the opportunities still available to him and focuses instead on his blessings, if you will, the wonderful advantages he still possesses.

    We all have CHOICE. Choice is that magic stick we can wave at any given situation and try our best to make it turn out successfully.

    Just earlier this morning I was perusing the latest college brochure that came in the mail yesterday.
    I could view it with mourning and despair or I could see it as opportunity.
    I realized it was I who was placing the ceiling on my life's achievements, by closing the brochure and refusing to finish reading through it.

    People all over the world pursue their hopes and dreams despite obstacles and setbacks and limitations.
    And they achieve something in the process!

    The JWs have not ruined our lives! Everyday we have the power to say to the past "I am done with you! You can no longer hurt me nor influence me nor affect the outcome of my future! From this day forward I am in control and each decision will be towards my happiness and success."

    Everyday of life is a day we have CHOICE.
    Take back that wonderful feeling of power in your life. TAKE CONTROL!
    LAUGH AT THE PAST! IT CAN NO LONGER HURT YOU!

    Focus, concentrate, meditate, and ruminate on your own dreams and goals and keep your dreams alive!

    Believe in yourself and your own power to change your life! It can be done!!
    Grab yourself and give yourself a big shake and say "Wake up! You are still alive! They didnt kill you! So go out there and create a life you love!"
    Everyday is a new opportunity!


    Anewme

  • anewme
    anewme

    In everyone's life there are obstacles to success. Everyone experiences setbacks, EVERYONE.
    To list all the disappointments in our life would be a very long list.

    I really believe the successful person looks at the opportunities still available to him and focuses instead on his blessings, if you will, the wonderful advantages he still possesses.

    We all have CHOICE. Choice is that magic stick we can wave at any given situation and try our best to make it turn out successfully.

    Just earlier this morning I was perusing the latest college brochure that came in the mail yesterday.
    I could view it with mourning and despair or I could see it as opportunity.
    I realized it was I who was placing the ceiling on my life's achievements, by closing the brochure and refusing to finish reading through it.

    People all over the world pursue their hopes and dreams despite obstacles and setbacks and limitations.
    And they achieve something in the process!

    The JWs have not ruined our lives! Everyday we have the power to say to the past "I am done with you! You can no longer hurt me nor influence me nor affect the outcome of my future! From this day forward I am in control and each decision will be towards my happiness and success."

    Everyday of life is a day we have CHOICE.
    Take back that wonderful feeling of power in your life. TAKE CONTROL!
    LAUGH AT THE PAST! IT CAN NO LONGER HURT YOU!

    Focus, concentrate, meditate, and ruminate on your own dreams and goals and keep your dreams alive!

    Believe in yourself and your own power to change your life! It can be done!!
    Grab yourself and give yourself a big shake and say "Wake up! You are still alive! They didnt kill you! So go out there and create a life you love!"
    Everyday is a new opportunity!


    Anewme

  • anewme
    anewme

    In everyone's life there are obstacles to success. Everyone experiences setbacks, EVERYONE.
    To list all the disappointments in our life would be a very long list.

    I really believe the successful person looks at the opportunities still available to him and focuses instead on his blessings, if you will, the wonderful advantages he still possesses.

    We all have CHOICE. Choice is that magic stick we can wave at any given situation and try our best to make it turn out successfully.

    Just earlier this morning I was perusing the latest college brochure that came in the mail yesterday.
    I could view it with mourning and despair or I could see it as opportunity.
    I realized it was I who was placing the ceiling on my life's achievements, by closing the brochure and refusing to finish reading through it. The possibility still exists for me to take some classes.

    People all over the world pursue their hopes and dreams despite obstacles and setbacks and limitations.
    And they achieve something in the process!

    The JWs have not ruined our lives! Everyday we have the power to say to the past "I am done with you! You can no longer hurt me nor influence me nor affect the outcome of my future! From this day forward I am in control and each decision will be towards my happiness and success."

    Everyday of life is a day we have CHOICE.
    Take back that wonderful feeling of power in your life. TAKE CONTROL!
    LAUGH AT THE PAST! IT CAN NO LONGER HURT YOU!

    Focus, concentrate, meditate, and ruminate on your own dreams and goals and keep your dreams alive!

    Believe in yourself and your own power to change your life! It can be done!!
    Grab yourself and give yourself a big shake and say "Wake up! You are still alive! They didnt kill you! So go out there and create a life you love!"
    Everyday is a new opportunity!


    Anewme

  • JH
    JH

    Well, I feel as if I did lose many years of my life.

    And now they make me believe that if I don't follow them, I'll lose the rest of eternity...

  • zagor
    zagor

    They took away a lot form me, I used to think they took my best year from me too. But now thinking about it, I'm not giving them that joy, I believe my best years are still ahead of me...

    Wuck the Fachtower

  • Reefton Jack
    Reefton Jack

    YES - they did!
    It is no good trying to pretend otherwise.

    Since breaking with them 12 years ago, I have been in the process of rebuilding my life.
    I am maybe not quite there yet, although I have made significant progress towards that.

    HOWEVER:

    - While I will always remain open to suggestions; there is no way that I can see that one can recover the 28 years that I was subject to the WTS madness.

    As Zagor say, 'Wuck the Fatchtower."



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