How do you make friends once leaving the Borg?

by unhappy 25 Replies latest jw friends

  • sass_my_frass
    sass_my_frass

    I had this trouble too, and I had to really force myself to become sociable. I still find it very difficult sometimes, as I'm so used to automatic acquaintances who are happy to just keep friendship light and weather- and field-service related. It has taken time to get used to opening up to people and telling them what I'm thinking, as I couldn't do that with witnesses as most of my thoughts were contrary to what they'd consider permissible...

    I can recommend volunteering too, in Oz there are a couple of big websites where you can search on any interest and any locality and find something you want to be involved in, and I've always gotten far more out than I put in. Google volunteering and you'll likely find one in your country.

    I've also joined some team sports and have pushed myself to be more sociable at work and with the neighbours. I used to be surprised at how most people just like to chat and be friendly, and I love it that out in the real world, you really do get to choose your friends.

    Mostly, be a good friend yourself; be a listener and a carer. That's what will draw people to you.

  • Hortensia
    Hortensia

    Go to school and take a course in something that interests you. I went to massage school - ironically I had been interested in massage since I read an article about it in Awake when I was a kid. I met a lot of new people, broke the ice, made some friends, and also had a new way to make a living. If you don't want to go to a trade school, take some sort of course at the community college. I found out something really really important - these people are far better friends to me than any JW has ever been, including people I thought were my dearest friends. I am interested in the posts about fading out of the organization. I did it really easily - although I only realized how easy it was after the fact. I just moved to a new neighborhood and told the folks in the old KH that I was changing halls. Then I just never showed up at the new one. Evidently they don't communicate much between congregations. It was as if I ceased to exist, fine with me.

  • Abandoned
    Abandoned

    (((unhappy)))

    I wasn't born in the borg, but I think I understand what you're feeling right now. There are a lot of great tips from other posters here on how to meet other friends so I just want to give you a warning from my own experience. It took me a long time to get the "I'm better than them" attitude out of my personality. I've made a number of enemies out of people who might have been great friends due to this. My advice, or warning, or whatever, is to work on assuming the best of other people. Whether you assume the worst or the best, whichever will come true.

  • outoftheorg
    outoftheorg

    This was always a difficult thing when I was in the Org. and even more difficult after I left in dealing with people.

    I just had to push myself to do things I would never even think of doing before.

    It is a bit scary to venture into new and unused actions.

    Here is what I did TODAY. I went to a restaurant in a small town that I like. I know the owner and some of the others who work there.

    I openly asked the waitress " I know a very handsome man that would like to meet a nice lady in my age bracket. That is me of course. Do you know of any? Her answer was yes. She lost her husband a few years ago.

    Yes, one of our school teachers. She is awsome! Ask her daughter ( she works in the tavern part of the restaurant).

    I asked this daughter ( a quite pretty girl ) .

    She said I don't know if she is ready to consider this, ( I will ask her ).

    It was that easy and also that difficult.

    Something I never could have done when in the Borg.

    As time goes on it gets easier. What would be their reply?? Either nothing or no she is not ready or even YES she would like that.

    What do I have to do? Well we will see.

    Outoftheorg

  • lisavegas420
    lisavegas420

    ((((outoftheorg))) I loved your story. Well...what happened?

    I find even now...I keep most people, even those I consider friends, at arms length. I don't mean to, I just do.

    lisa

  • DannyBloem
    DannyBloem

    I have exactly the same problem.

    your whole life you try to avoid any close contact, so bascally I do not have friends other then witnesses, who are not friends anymore now....

    started a thread about the same thing last week. maybe some sugegstions for you came up there...

  • unhappy
    unhappy

    Thank you all for the fantastic advice, I'm going to go and get the local paper now. Im just going to be open to new opportunities and experiences and see what happens. It's true with 'friends' in the org, they are not usually people you would choose to be friends with but have to be friendly as there is no one else that is 'acceptable' to hang around with. I feel a lot better now and I think I'm ready to start my new life. Yay

  • blondie
    blondie

    Part of it is learning to trust again. Many of us were betrayed by people we thought cared about us, family and friends at the KH. We might doubt our ability to tell who we can trust, even now among non-JWs.

    Making friends takes time too, cultivating that spark that might fly up when you meet people. Build on those shared interests. Show interest in them by asking polite questions and then listening.

    Getting to know the neighbors is good. Say a warm hello when you see them, ask how things are going and take a moment to listen. We visit our neighbors with little treats we have made for ourselves making a little extra and wrapping it and taking it over.

    Volunteering is good and there will be one that won't challenge your physical barriers.

    Realize too that even people who were never JWs find it a challenge to make friends. Most people I know have a built in foundation of family and friends and work where their friends come from. Even they would be challenged if that foundation were not there to find new friends.

    Remember too that one or 2 good friends is better than 20 acquaintances.

    Love, Blondie

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere
    I seem to have lost most of my social skills while I was in the cult, and have come to prefer solitude.

    I couldn't have said it better myself.

  • Scully
    Scully
    So I'm starting the fading out now, and i'm avoiding all kh 'friends,' but am finding it a bit lonely, as was raised in org, and was always taught to shun worldly people even at school. Does anyone have any advice or experiences about how to overcome this? how they met and made new friends in the beginning? I don't work due to poor health, so i dont meet there.

    I think it's important to remember that under normal (ie, "non-cult") circumstances, it takes time to develop and cultivate friendships. The WTS did us a disservice in this area by providing a program that mandated instant friendships and brotherhood with everyone within the Organization™. Some JWs even arrogantly refer to people in the Organization™ as The Friends™.

    Maybe you need to look for activities that you enjoy doing, and find other people who like doing the same kinds of things. Volunteering, as other people have mentioned, is a great way to support a cause that you feel is important and meet other people who feel the same way. If you have a special interest in some activity, maybe there is a group that meets regularly to participate in the same activity. There are book clubs, cooking classes, photography classes, calligraphy classes, music lessons, bird watching clubs, craft groups, sports activities of all kinds. Think about all the things that you wished you could do when you were growing up, but had to put off until later because "there will be plenty of time to do that after Armageddon™." Make a list and think about which things you still want to do or are able to do, and then look for some local groups of people who do those things.

    I started meeting new people when I went back to school. Later I found other people with the same interests in various crafts - starting with card-making and scrapbooking.

    If you have some skills that you want to share, you can volunteer to teach people how to learn the skill. One of the local knitting shops has volunteers who teach beginners how to knit, and also needs volunteers to knit tiny hats and sweaters for babies in the NICU. There is a quilting club that makes little quilts for the babies in the NICU. There is a carpentry club that makes memory boxes for bereaved parents of stillborn babies, and a tole-painting club whose members paint designs on those boxes. There is a group that makes knit and crochet shawls, hats and mittens for the elderly in nursing homes, or for homeless people in shelters. There is another group that makes hats for chemotherapy patients who are losing their hair. Meals on wheels needs volunteers to cook and deliver meals to the elderly. Food banks need volunteers to distribute care packages to the less fortunate. There are choirs and other kinds of singing groups that perform at nursing homes and other events. There is no end to opportunities to help other people... you just need to think about what you'd like to do... and there will be people who are interested in the same things.

    I'm sure you'll find something very special that you will enjoy doing and sharing with others.

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