worldly friends as a young jw..

by candidlynuts 17 Replies latest jw friends

  • GoingGoingGone
    GoingGoingGone

    I was never allowed to have any friends in the neighborhood. I couldn't even walk to the school bus with them.. I had to walk alone. I had friends at school and we were in classes together and ate lunch together, but I wasn't allowed to go over their houses or do anything with them outside school.

    I played an instrument in school and I loved it. I was also very good at it. But from the time I entered high school, the students in band had to play at the football games, and they had to practice on Saturday mornings. Saturday mornings were for field service, and I wasn't allowed to be at football games, so I had to give up band. I was devistated, but that didn't matter to my JW mother.

    Interestingly, I was recently contacted for a high school reunion and have reconnected with the 3 girls I was close to in school. I've told all of them that I'm not a JW anymore. They were thrilled for me... and two of them sent me Christmas cards!

    GGG

  • GentlyFeral
    GentlyFeral

    Oroborus21, You don't seem to realize precisely how exceptional your upbringing was. I was not raised as a JW, but I did raise my kids that way.

    despite that my dad was the presiding overseer and literally had built the congregation, I was permitted to play little league, participate in the spelling bees, science fairs, etc. as a kid.

    My son participated in science fairs for two years because it was required by his teacher. I pitched in and assisted him and he did well.

    However, this same teacher pleaded with us to allow him to prepare for college "because he needs to play intellectually." Smart woman – that was the button to hit, because the money and success buttons had been double-whammied by JW indoctrination and hippie sympathies.

    We turned a deaf ear.

    When I got older during my teen years, my dad went inactive for a decade

    And here we come to the source of your denial of our experience. For about ten years, you were raised as a worldling. You have not really shared our experience!

    which worked out perfectly as I was totally free to continue sports, lettered in three sports Junior high and two varsity, do clubs, honor society, I planned and decorated our Prom, and went to both Junior and Senior proms [etc.]

    We took our son out of school in junior high and taught him at home – not, however for religious reasons; the school environment was actually pretty bad. Had we left him in school, though, we would never have allowed him any of this – because the prevailing "wisdom" in the congregations we attended forbade all of it. We even felt a little defensive about our decision to let him enroll in the GATE program – and we never discussed it with any JWs until after the fact.

    I also stayed out as late as I want and was at home whenever I wanted.

    We kind of drifted in this direction when our son was of high school age – but by then he had shown himself to be sober, trustworthy, and a sound judge of character. We also knew and trusted the kids he associated with.

    Nevertheless, he was leading a double life (but in a sober and trustworthy manner ) I'm not entirely sure he was a virgin when he left home but at the time we suspected nothing.

    I was never made to go in service, join the ministry school or attend meetings but I did go to meetings as much as I wanted and usually tried to take my mother.

    Another difference between us. We had it ground into us even before we began attending meetings ourselves that attendance and field service were our lifeline. If we went, the kids had to go.

    Despite our fanaticism, we were often inactive, "spiritually weak." Now, of course, I'm thankful for that fact, but at the time we were perpetually guilty and ashamed.

    gently feral

  • Oroborus21
    Oroborus21

    gently feral, (nice handle), I know my upbringing was not the norm for JWs. That is one reason why i try to understand how others did have it. Also just to be clear, even though I wasn't forced into conforming or following the party line by my parents, I chose to live like a good JW in most ways when it came to morals. (with the exception of the occasional lawbreaking and teen shenanigans of course)

    Mene mene,

    I was allowed to work on the Prom committee and decorate for the party was not allowed to go to it. - -

    Oh that's just wrong. That's like making JW kids wrap Christmas presents meant for others :-)

    -eduardo

  • LoverOfTruth
    LoverOfTruth

    I encouraged my children to have friends in and Outside of the Congregation. It seemed the Worldly Friends were Kinder and Easier to get along with.

  • diamondblue1974
    diamondblue1974

    I remember whilst growing up I was allowed just one worldly friend - Mike (hes still a friend now too) but I remember there being times when I could associate with him (when my mother was feeling a bit flexible) and I also remember a great deal of times when I couldnt associate with him; particularly after a convention when 'counsel' had been given about bad associations and my mother was in a zealous mood.

    It was inconsistent; confusing and downright unfair. I also remember not being able to associate with school friends outside of school when I got older and into secondary school. Even those kids from good families that worked and cared for their kids were off limits.

    Life as a young JW stinks.

    DB74

  • LoverOfTruth
    LoverOfTruth

    My son Aaron had a Non-JW Friend in High School who was half Jewish and half Catholic. This Friend Joe didn't know Aaron was a JW until he started cracking Jokes about the Witnesses. Aaron replied, "That's what I Am" ~ Joe was a little embarrassed but came back with "Well I really don't know what I Am; I guess God will tell me when I die"

    The boys were best friends until Joe died in 1994 at the age of 17. Aaron is 30 now yet whenever he comes back home to visit, he makes a special point of seeing Joe's Parents too. This Bond is much stonger than any he had with any of the JWs.

  • Mulan
    Mulan

    As I've said many times, here, I grew up in the 50's and 60's when things were very different for JW kids.

    I had lots of worldly friends, sleepovers, school activities, even dating worldly boys.

    My best friend from 6th grade on, and I, still communicate. She lives in Texas now, but was in town to have Christmas with her children. We met at a casino and had a great day together. We are senior citizens now and she has gray hair (I'm still resisting going gray). So glad I was allowed to have Gerry as my friend way back then.

  • candidlynuts
    candidlynuts

    sorry to drag up an older thread but i wanted to share a comment by one of my teens this week speaking about how hard it is to even find TIME to grow any friendships as a jw teen..

    " its like the brothers dont want you to do anything but turn in time , they dont care if you really talk to anyone in service , just turn that slip in. all my time is spent either in service or studying or getting up a talk and there isnt any time left over for me to do anything else, i feel like a slave..and when any of the elders talk to me its just to complain about what i am wearing or how i fixed my hair! doesnt anyone care about what i think on the inside?"

    i talked to her at length.. gently, i dont want to cause her any more confusion or grief but i DO want her to continue to think for herself.. if she's made this observation as a teen she's 20 years ahead of me!! i was in my 30s before i ever had this thought! she also said she doesnt want to get baptized till she's an adult and that there is immense pressure on her to get baptized NOW NOW NOW.. she's about to crack from all the jw pressure.. add on to that the regular teen pressure..i really am concerned about her, we did have several good conversations. i am amazed at how insightful she is sometimes. i asked her if the baptism pressure came at any particular time and she said yes, when the co is in.. so i said maybe the brothers are trying to please their boss by upping their baptism candidate numbers and she said well they need to up their numbers, only 7 got baptized last assembly and all of them were jw kids, no new converts. AND she commented on how the KH attendance is so down that they have eliminated the B hall talks and just have the main hall on service meeting night. she doesnt like being pushed around and she does like to think for herself , so i have some hope that she will be able to break away from the jw hold once she's an adult.

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