How I lost my soul mate.

by Abandoned 38 Replies latest social relationships

  • JWdaughter
    JWdaughter

    Hi,

    I don't know about soul mates. I am not sure about love at all sometimes. But you gave your all-maybe too soon, but it was so BRAVE to do that. I have never been brave about expressing my feelings-ever since I was a fat little girl who thought I didn't deserve to be loved. Then I grew up and it seemed men wanted a wife or a sex partner-none of the 'romantic' guys seemed to want to spend any romantic energy on me. But for all that, if one had come on real strong, it would have scared me off if it was too soon. I want all that, but it aint happening. For my 12th wedding anniversary I got a "Happy anniversary card" Inside mentioned our "2nd" anniversary, and my husband forgot to sign it. Hell, I need romance. sigh.

    You are a sweetie, you have a lot of love and a tender heart. Save it for a real woman who deserves it and who can handle it. When you find her, you will know you have found the right mate. I haven't GOT that kind of relationship, but I have seen a few of them. Not perfect people, not without flaws or pasts, but people who look at each other and just smile, cause they can't help it. You aren't in a wrong relationship now, so you are in the perfect position to wait for the right one. You are young and attractive. Be patient. If its for the rest of your life, taking a while to be sure won't cost anything but the sweet anticipation. And it IS sweet.

  • Schism
    Schism

    Yeah, I try to get my husband to confront me all the time. He still loves to serve...

  • seawolf
    seawolf

    out of curiosity, but how old was she?

  • Abandoned
    Abandoned
    out of curiosity, but how old was she?

    I knew this would come up. She was 22 and I was 38. I know, I can feel some of you wanting to throw things, but my story didn't do justice to the connection that was there. She was messed up in her past too, but I never got to that point either because I was too scared to just wait out her anger or something. I have a lot more comments to make to specific things said, but I'll have to do that tomorrow.

  • Good Girl or Bad Girl?
    Good Girl or Bad Girl?
    out of curiosity, but how old was she?

    I knew this would come up. She was 22 and I was 38. I know, I can feel some of you wanting to throw things, but my story didn't do justice to the connection that was there. She was messed up in her past too, but I never got to that point either because I was too scared to just wait out her anger or something. I have a lot more comments to make to specific things said, but I'll have to do that tomorrow.

    Dear Abandoned, You do NOT have to justify your connection to anyone here. Thank you for sharing what you did. This should be a place to be able to come and vent about such things without people tearing you a new one and telling you what you did wrong or that you should man up or whatever. I'm sorry for what happened to you. It's sad to connect with somebody and to make yourself vulnerable for that person and to trust them, just to have them throw it in your face later. It appears to me this is the risk you take in order to truly love and live, and it is worth it because otherwise you would not be truly living and being who you are. And as for people who say you shouldn't write songs or poetry or do the romantic things too early on, when you find a woman who truly appreciates these things and is truly right for you, then it won't matter how early on you do them. She will appreciate them. And I do believe this Amber girl will one day regret this for the rest of her life, as she goes through life and realizes most guys she meets and dates are not going to live up to the kind and sweet things you did for her. ~Good Girl/Bad Girl

  • Abandoned
    Abandoned

    OK, I'm tired from work and I'm sad from things, but I have some comments to make regarding what's been commented here.

    Abandoned, I am so sorry you had such a loss. Sounds like you did fall for her hard and she was vulnerable (on the rebound, as you said). The poems are very articulate and well written, but do you think maybe they were a little too intense? I'm wondering if the intensity scared her, and she pounced on the hooker story as an excuse to extract herself from the situation.

    You could be right. One of the reasons I can't seem to get past this a year and a half later is that I think I was winning her heart and would have if I had just backed off and gave her some room but stayed close enough to let her know I just liked her. I didn't go into detail about all that was involved in the sucide attempt, but my co-workers didn't know anything about that. They thought I quit in a huff and then sweet-talked the manager into letting me have my job back. So, when I saw Amber three weeks later in a fire saftey school, she was shocked. I was too scared to even make eye contact as I imagined that she must hate me and then I didn't see her again for four or five months. It hurts that I promised her I would wait and give her room and then I did neither.

    Her refusals to be sexually intimate (whilst her choice and must be respected) suggested that she was extremely guarded, but was there any other forms of intimacy shown? Did she ever let her feelings go and was there any signs of sexual attraction there from her standpoint? If you both did demonstrate any other forms of physical intimacy did you ever reach a point where you both had to step back and say 'wow, this is going too far and lets wait'?

    It wasn't exactly a refusal. It was more of a test to see how I would respond. She did this on that Wednesday afternoon date too. We were talking about all sorts of things and then she turned the conversation to sex. She said she wanted to make sure that I liked it too since I wasn't hitting on her. I think she is used to guys trying to get into her pants and I so much wanted to get into her heart first.

    She was very guarded and I knew some of it because she told me she'd been hurt by her husband but I think things happened before that and I think the intimacy that was building was scaring her because of how she'd had a trust ruined before. This is just guesswork but this wasn't all in my head. She told me that she was falling for me and that she really pictured us together. The end came quick, but it didn't come without a beginning and a middle.

    It really might not feel like it but you had a lucky escape.

    You're right, it doesn't feel like that at all. But I do appreciate the sentiment.

    Dude, you are one beat-up guy. I'm really sorry about that. But here's a fact: she's not your soul mate if there was a bit of your soul she couldn't take. Okay so it was stupid timing for her, but nobody is ever going to write her songs again, and she's going to spend her life comparing every loser man who makes a move on her to you.

    And sorry about stealing the thread, but I'm curious as to what happened with the guy at work who was harassing you.

    You'll be kinder to your liver from now on, won't you?

    It's what I can't figure out. I would have done everything right if I'd have known. It may still not be too late. I don't know anything. I'm forty and I feel like a complete moron about something that affects me so profoundly and powerfully.

    Kinder to my liver? LOL, yeah that was my third attempt. I'm not a genius, but I can take a hint...

    I bought into the whole soulmate idea when I was with my ex. Even though I'm married, I've abandoned this concept as it's quite rediculous. I now believe in having an "ideal mate", but not a soulmate.

    This makes sense and it may be right, but there's still a part of me that believes in soul mates.

    My opinion only- Don't expect anything to come of this, but mail her
    the story you typed out. Include the title. End it with something like-
    "Sorry I messed things up- I think we could have had something special."
    (DO NOT SEND ANOTHER POEM)
    Then let it go if you never hear back.

    If you can talk me into doing this, I'll buy you a dinner. I'm very conservative with my heart these days.

    Dont ever do that again ( Grannies orders) because you are a VERY TALENTED POET!!!! you write from the heart....Keep putting your heart feelings on paper. Just dont name anyone....
    So change your monicker from Abandoned to "REPRIEVED" cos I think that is what you are

    Now don't go getting the wrong idea mouthy, Grace, but I love you so much. You are such a wonderful, caring person.

    YOU ARE NOT ABANDONED.

    Not here no, but I think the name still fits. I dedicated my life to god when I was 20 years old. I lost my first wife because my dedication ended me up in a cult. I'm forty now, $70,000 in debt, nearly incapable of maintaining a romantic relationship, and filled with regrets for having wasted my life in dedication to such a thankless god. Anyway, I may not be abandoned here but the name sticks cuz it still fits.

    If Amber is your soul mate there is nothing that could really take her away from you.

    This is how I know that I'm probably not ever going to have a real relationship. There's a part of me that would give up anyone if a chance to get back with her arose. It's why I haven't been able to write poetry for the two women I dated since. I just can't. I could still write a book full for Amber and I haven't even seen her in six months.

    Dude...yer poetry is on point...I only wonder if she was really willing to go as deep as your poems went...I know how you feel, but take heed...there IS such a thing as a soulmate...I found mine and I've not had what one would call a very positive history with relationships.

    Thanks so much for the encouragment.

    I don't know about soul mates. I am not sure about love at all sometimes. But you gave your all-maybe too soon, but it was so BRAVE to do that. I have never been brave about expressing my feelings-ever since I was a fat little girl who thought I didn't deserve to be loved. Then I grew up and it seemed men wanted a wife or a sex partner-none of the 'romantic' guys seemed to want to spend any romantic energy on me. But for all that, if one had come on real strong, it would have scared me off if it was too soon. I want all that, but it aint happening. For my 12th wedding anniversary I got a "Happy anniversary card" Inside mentioned our "2nd" anniversary, and my husband forgot to sign it. Hell, I need romance. sigh.

    Aww, I'm sorry you had those feelings. I lost the ability to be brave after my first wife had an affair and walked out on me. It really through my ability to trust for a loop. I know that my joining the jw had a major impact on either the affair, her leaving, or both, but it still left me scarred for about ten years. With Amber I knew. I knew the day I met her and yet she was pregnant and married and nothing was going to happen, yet I knew. I knew when a bunch of us were talking in the break room and I mentioned (after a meesed up but short dating fiasco) that I would never again date anyone that I wasn't compatible with astrologically. Someone asked me which signs I was compatible with and I said Libra and Gemini. Anyway, Amber asked me if I was compatible with Sagitarrius. I said, "yeah, I'm supposed to be very compatible with Sagitarrius." She was born December 18. Yep, a Sagitarrius.

    And I do believe this Amber girl will one day regret this for the rest of her life, as she goes through life and realizes most guys she meets and dates are not going to live up to the kind and sweet things you did for her.

    But that isn't necessary. She doesn't have to live with that regret. We could chalk it up to inexperiene and simply human bumbling and I could show her that I meant I'd wait until she was ready. Anyway, I appreciate the thought. (((hug)))

  • cruzanheart
    cruzanheart

    If a relationship is going to work, it will. I met Chris when he was 19 and I was 25. We were friends while everyone around us said we were falling in love. We broke up because his family wanted him to stay a single pioneer -- a virgin sacrifice, if you want to call it that. After 5 weeks we were both so miserable without each other that we realized this was really love. The opportunity presented itself and I chased him. He let me catch him. We realized our relationship was real and serious and after two years we got married, amid a storm of protest, dire predictions of failure and general disapproval.

    That was almost 24 years ago and we're still married and still happy.

    Okay, my point is this: it seemed great with Amber and if it's meant to be with her it will work out. You've made your feelings clear. She obviously has "issues" that have NOTHING to do with you (you sound like a really nice guy). Give her space and maybe the opportunity will present itself for the two of you to get together. If not, move on. You will find someone who appreciates you for who you are, I'm sure of it!

    Hugs,

    Nina

  • Abandoned
    Abandoned

    When I started drifting away, I spent a lot of my time playing video games. I was living in Mexico at the time and surrounded by Spanish most of the time and while I love the language I did find myself missing English a lot. Video games were a great coping skill. One of the games that really grabbed me was Tropico. I loved the game so much that I created a website to support some mods I'd created for it. Eventually, I branched out into other games as well.

    After this HUGE introduction, I'm proud to announce that I've posted my soulmate story on that site as well.

    Here, check it out: http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/improg

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    A nice New Year's Eve to you. I just got updated on your thread-
    I hadn't read it in a couple days.

    My opinion only- Don't expect anything to come of this, but mail her
    the story you typed out. Include the title. End it with something like-
    "Sorry I messed things up- I think we could have had something special."
    (DO NOT SEND ANOTHER POEM)
    Then let it go if you never hear back.

    If you can talk me into doing this, I'll buy you a dinner. I'm very conservative with my heart these days.

    I'd love to let you buy me dinner the next time I am in Minnesota, but I am not about to
    try talking you into doing this. It was a suggestion for closure. I wasn't thinking that it
    would spark something inside her and cause her to run to your arms. (I am sure your
    romanticism pictured something like that) It might ease her feelings about how you
    blew it with her, but what you were thinking. Also- shows that you were truly punished
    for honesty, as most men would say "Soulmate-yes, prostitutes-no, now can we have sex?"

    YOU ARE NOT ABANDONED.

    .....I dedicated my life to god when I was 20 years old. I lost my first wife because my dedication ended me up in a cult. I'm forty now, $70,000 in debt, nearly incapable of maintaining a romantic relationship, and filled with regrets for having wasted my life in dedication to such a thankless god. .....

    If Amber is your soul mate there is nothing that could really take her away from you.

    This is how I know that I'm probably not ever going to have a real relationship. There's a part of me that would give up anyone if a chance to get back with her arose. It's why I haven't been able to write poetry for the two women I dated since. I just can't. I could still write a book full for Amber and I haven't even seen her in six months.

    Ask any 60 or 70 year old with any measure of health if life after 40 is almost as full as the first 40 years. I agree that many years
    were wasted in a cult. Me too. They could have been wasted somewhere else. Did you learn from your first marriage or your cult
    years? Take your lessons and move forward- no matter where you start now. I know it's easy for me to just type that, difficult for you
    to do, but get started. If you have some measure of happiness or help one person (perhaps here on JWD) you could make a
    tiny bit of success in your life- hell, you probably already have done that for Amber and others, do it again.

    Debt is either repaid slowly, quickly, or never- it changes your lifestyle, but not who you are. Don't focus your life on the debt. Perhaps
    bankruptcy will occur or perhaps not.

    The closure with Amber might help. She might tell you off. Even that would help you move on. I totally love my wife, I know I would be
    so depressed if she started spying on me for the elders. As much as I love her, I would probably not stand for that and move on with
    life without her. We have been so happy for years, but I would get over her- it could take awhile, and I might be asking you for
    advice if it were to happen, but somehow, I will move on. If you are hooked on Amber, tell her this story so she can freak out on you,
    then you can move on. A small part of you says she won't freak out- you will never know unless you finish this story.

  • Abandoned
    Abandoned

    Thanks OnTheWayOut.

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