How do I have everlasting life?

by soulfinder 54 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  FadingAway

  soulfinder, I took your advice and Jesus did appear to me:
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  myelaine

  Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, let not the mighty man glory in his might, nor the rich man glory in his riches; but let him who glories glory in this, that he understands Me, that I am the LORD, exercising lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness in the earth. For in these I delight, says the LORD. (Jeremiah 9:23-24)

  But the LORD is the true God; He is the living God and the everlasting King. At His wrath the earth will tremble, and the nations will not be able to abide His indignation. Thus you shall say to them: "The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth shall perish from the earth and from under these heavens." (Jeremiah 10:10-11)

  love michelle
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  avidbiblereader

  I would rather live as if there is a God and die and find out there isn't one

  Then live as if there isn't one and die and find out there is One.

  Quote from a comedian

  abr
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  Morocco

  I just wanted to comment on something real quick. You said that Jesus changes your heart and can make it really easy for you to behave in a positive manner. Then you gave a history of once being a drug abusing “metalhead”. How can you be so sure that it was Jesus who changed you? If you had led an alternate life, where you never abused drugs, how do you know that it would be so easy to NOT do drugs? It is the very fact that you did drugs that allowed you to see if you truly wanted them, not Jesus changing your heart. You say that you prayed for a bible as a sign. Do you know how common it is for people to have bibles in prison? Thats like asking the Lord for a wreck at the Talladega speedway as a sign. It's all so debatable and the evidence is sketchy. How can you base your belief in something on such fleeting details? Is it because you “feel it”? Religious experiences, OBEs and the like, can be replicated in laboratories. Hearing voices and seeing things isn't proof – are your senses the only ones on the planet that can't be fooled?
  
  You asked how many people believe in Jesus. Just because the whole world believes in something doesn't make it real. Remember, the bible says Satan is the God of this world, so by that logic he will be the majority that rules. So, by that logic, the belief in Jesus should be a minority for it to be a good thing. It also says the will be constantly turning himself into an angel of light, making himself seem good. By that logic, you might want to double check everything that appears like an “angel of light”. Jesus, Jehovah, the Bible... it could ALL be under his control.
  
  I think its great you cleaned up your life. There wasn't a better choice. But give yourself the credit because YOU experienced it. Jesus didn't change you... you changed yourself. Job well done from the experience you had and the life you wanted.
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  soulfinder

  satanus, in response to your question, and it may get a little biblical, it is all about love. Love comes from the Spirit of God, and changes you from the inside out. When you go to Jesus, He gives you His Spirit.

  As for all the debate and speculation on whether or not God and His Son actually exist, I can tell you I know this to be certain for these reasons:

  1. I spend time with them and they are exactly the people (by this I mean that they have the same character, honest, kind, compassionate, merciful, and righteouss) that the bible describes them to be.

  2. They tell me things are going to happen before they do, and when the time comes, what they said would happen does. So yes, Both Jesus and God can tell you the future if they want to.

  3. Knowing that they do not lie, they told me themselves who they are.

  Whether or not you believe me, even if you never tell me you did this, why not ask them yourselves? You don't ever have to tell anyone you asked. It only takes a moment. If you are humble about it (and please realize that God speaks to whomever He chooses and does what He wants), He may show you the truth in a way that you cannot deny.

  As far as the prison thing, I was in a two man cell 23 hours a day, and it was the first time in at least a month (I had only been there a month, it may have been longer) they had passed out bibles, and it was the day after I asked God for the first time to give me one to show me whether or not He wanted me to believe. If we are going to talk odds here, it's better to get the facts straight. Besides that, He healed me from Hepititis C (which is something the doctors can't even cure), and has spoken to me directly. He has done many other things, which I could list a few, but hopefully this will be enough to show you.

  I could go through all the reasons in the world, but the decision is yours. If you want to know Him, talk to Him. I recommend you do, the Lord is a very good person. If you don't it's your loss.
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  Little Drummer Boy

  Hello soulfinder,

  I recommend a medicine called Depakote (not joking). It made the voices in my head stop after the third day I started taking it. Might work for you to.

  Also, it seems to me that you have experienced some positive changes in your life (although giving up metal isn't one of them). I submit to you that you aren't giving yourself enough credit for the changes, but instead are giving the credit to "Jeeeeeheeeesus". Dude, give credit where credit is due. If you stopped taking drugs, that was your own will power and stength. Another possibiliy that hasn't been made clear to me by your story is that maybe you simply lost the addiction to the drugs because you were in prison and couldn't get your fix. Either way, Jesus didn't solve your problems.

  I used to pray for Jesus to be a part of my life. What did that get me? A 14 year long cult membership in the borg. Since I was very sincere, and the dubs are a nasty organization, my only conclusions have to be that either: 1) Jesus was just feeling mean that day and let me and my family suffer for 14 years and go through a whole bunch of crap, or 2) (more likely) there is no Jesus.

  Have a nice day.
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  soulfinder

  Little Drummer Boy:

  The voices you suffered from may have been an unclean spirit or a demon.

  As far as giving myself the credit, I have to walk with the Lord, and yes there is some responsibility, but He definately carried me through a lot.

  As far as being part of a bad organization, did you know that you don't have to join a church to know Jesus? I think that maybe you are putting on Him the pain they caused you, and I would highly reccomend just going to the Lord by yourself. You don't have to join a church, do any work, or even read a bible. Please don't judge God based upon any organization, or anything that other people have done to you, because the blame for those actions reside on the people who did them, not on the Lord Himself.
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  Little Drummer Boy

  Little Drummer Boy:

  The voices you suffered from may have been an unclean spirit or a demon.

  As far as giving myself the credit, I have to walk with the Lord, and yes there is some responsibility, but He definately carried me through a lot.

  As far as being part of a bad organization, did you know that you don't have to join a church to know Jesus? I think that maybe you are putting on Him the pain they caused you, and I would highly reccomend just going to the Lord by yourself. You don't have to join a church, do any work, or even read a bible. Please don't judge God based upon any organization, or anything that other people have done to you, because the blame for those actions reside on the people who did them, not on the Lord Himself.

  No, they weren't demunz in my head, they were a chemical imbalance that was fixed very nicely with medication. As far as the joining a bad organization blah, blah, blah throw away comment you made, if you actually read what I wrote, you would see that the search for Jesus came before the borg joining. Got it now? And oh holy crap, what the hell was I thinking, dip me in butter and call me Sally, gee golly dang, it sure looks like I fed a forum troll with my first post. So...I'm out of this one.
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  soulfinder

  Well I wish you the best. Sorry about misunderstanding your post.
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  frankiespeakin

  soul,

  Are you the lady that used to post that first name is Shelby?