Noah's Ark ....How did Noah...................... (page 2)

bigmouth

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/117150/2055054/post.ashx#2055054

KAYTEE, I really enjoyed this thread on the ark from last year by vomit. Sorry I don't know how to make it 'clickable'
Pete

It never happened. Check out "Who Wrote The Bible" by Richard Elliott Friedman, and "The Bible Unearthed" archaeology's new vision of ancient Israel and the origin of it's sacred texts. by Israel Finkelstein and Neil Asher Silberman. Big eye openings!

Blueblades

Narkissos

Navigator,

Actually from the Mesopotamian Epics of Atrahasis and Gilgamesh, which were known in the Levant as well. See the Assyrian version here : http://www.ancienttexts.org/library/mesopotamian/gilgamesh/tab11.htm

spoils_useful_habits

duh wtf is 'bitumen'?!!!!

BrentR

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitumen

Good question! I always assumed he used a type of creosote and had never heard of bitumen myself so I looked it up.

It may be that I never payed too much attention at the meetings. My body was there but my mind was always 1000 miles away. I do not know what being in a coma is like but I think the meetings were as close as you could get to being in one without the medical problems asociated with them.

Leolaia

A Late Bronze Age copy of the Gilgamesh Epic was actually found at Megiddo, so the Canaanites were certainly familiar with the story. In fact, the names "Gilgamesh" and "Ut-napishtim" (the latter corrupted as "Atambish") occur in the third century BC Book of Giants, an early segment of 1 Enoch (a few copies of which were among the Dead Sea Scrolls).

Amazing

Kaytee,

Noah likely used the same ship building means that has been used to this day ... one starts a frame-scaffold type structure, and build the ship inside of it. It is high enough to permit getting underneath the ship hull. Noah was given 100-years to complete the project, so it would not have been far-fetched for him to have plenty of time to plan construction, and/or even have a few trial and errors.

The problem with the Noah story has more to do with the fact that there never could have been a world-wide flood that put all land under water up to a depth of at least 12,000 feet. Geological evidence is flatly against such a notion. Noah could not have been out on the Ark with a smapling of all animal species (or even the base species) for a year as the Bible states. The fish would have all died, because food at that elevation above any food source. The earth would have been totally barron after the flood, and no food would have been available for Noah and company. Finally, there is not enough storage areas for all that water to have flooded the planet, and then gone away. The flood was likely a local event in which Noah and family took as many animals as they could for a month or so. Legend expanded the story, and when the Hebrews adopted it, they took it as an allegorical lesson. What many people do not understand about the Jewish faith is that a lot of the Biblical lessons are meant as allegory to teach lessons ... and are not to be taken literally.

Did Jesus and the Apostles refer to the Flood as real? Yes, but they never once said anything about the flood being global. There is good geological evidence that the Medeterreanan Sea brok through the narrow land bridge near Istanbul (Constantinople) between Greece and Turkey and flooded the region we know today as the Black Sea. This could have been the result of a small asteroid hitting the ocean elsewhere, and creating massive costal flooding. Another theory is that there was a major earthquake in the region resulting in a tsunami (tidal wave) that broke the land bridge. Again, as legends spread, they take on a new life as various embellishment are added and "refined" .

Jim Whitney

Terry

I once called in on a radio talkshow and asked the bible-defending guest the following question.

"When the animals disembarked from the ark after the flood, what did the carnivores eat? Wouldn't it take a long time to build up core populations? If there was no "meat on the hoof" so to speak, what would a carnivore do?"

Take a dog, for instance. If you are a dog owner and you don't feed your dog meat---what happens?

The answer I got was, "I'm sure god made some arrangments."

Now that is a great argument! Kind of like, "Wait on Jehovah."

My theory is that the rabbinical geniuses in later years saw this problem as well and came up with the amended scripture that gives the 2nd version of Noah's Ark where Noah was commanded to take 7 of the clean animals and 2 each of the unclean. It doesn't really solve the problem, but, it addresses it in a small way.

KAYTEE

Brilliant answers Great stuff all of you.

KT

avidbiblereader

In doing research on this, Genesis 6:14 14 Make for yourself an ark out of wood of a resinous tree. You will make compartments in the ark, and you must cover it inside and outside with tar.

Resinous trees or plants in this family have several purposes and qualities. One is; that it is a tree that naturally repels water and in making the tar from it, it likewise repels water and has been used for centuries in ship building because of its qualities

It also has a fragrance, so it COULD be that the ark not only was waterproof from the product of lumber, but also its tar and it could have smelled nice which would make sense in dealing with so many animals in closed quarters for so long, But notice the tar was put on the INSIDE as well as the outside.

abr

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