by The wanderer 39 Replies latest jw friends
Certainly there have been changes in the WTBTS.
However, all in all, the Jehovah's Witness 'religion' has stayed very much like the Jehovah's Witness God - cruel, nasty, heartless, jealous and twisted!
Jehovah's Witnesses are an accurate name. The organization is like the God that they worship!
Hello Wanderer,
Prove 4:18 If one would read the context of this scripture with the first 8 chapters, this is Solomon and Jehovah in the bigger sense pleading with his son to choose between two choices or two roads
The dark or gloomy path and rejecting his councel and wisdom and by pursuing it would lead disastous,
The second road is the road of righteousness which would get brighter as you follow it, leading to happiness and favor
IT IS NOT a scripture that an organization of religion can use as a Safety Net to change doctrine, behavior or anything else and claim "No damage Done" If that were the case, any one religion can claim total "hey were sorry, just made a mistake, but we still have God's favor". The Scriptures in James says not many of you should be teachers as you will have a heavier judgement, How can you have a heavier judgement when you have a safety net that allows you to constantly change course whenever you want with no one to check your hand without impunity? Also in taking a look at Romans 3:4 Never may that happen! But let God be found true, though every man be found a liar, even as it is written: “That you might be proved righteous in your words and might win when you are being judged.”
verses 9-12 9 What then? Are we in a better position? Not at all! For above we have made the charge that Jews as well as Greeks are all under sin; 10 just as it is written: “There is not a righteous [man], not even one; 11 there is no one that has any insight, there is no one that seeks for God. 12 All [men] have deflected, all of them together have become worthless; there is no one that does kindness, there is not so much as one."
NOT ONE?HMMM!!!!! Why is anyone bragging unless it is in our weaknesses and in what the Christ has done as Paul stated?????
Now the Nation of Isreal: There can be no doubt they HAD favored nation status and they were a work in progress as God was willing to forgive many many times as they did not have complete knowledge. However their arrogance, their adding to the law and nulifying the scriptures and the hypocrisy did catch them and they lost favored nation status when they rejected the Christ as the last straw.
Witnesses do use the name of Jesus and teach we have a sacrifice, But they do not teach the Good News as Paul and others taught in the scriptures. The Good News lies in Christ as our sacrifice and there is nothing we can do, add to it, supplement the sacrifice and they do not teach men per say, to follow the Christ and point to Him as such. They teach the organization, the GB, the FD slave, the BOE, I was amazed when I started reading the Bible and taking off the blinders the role of our Lord, EVERYTHING revolves around Him, that is the story of the NT. So no I don't feel that the witnesses do justice to our Lord and in a large way have rejected His significance in the Bible, thus rejecting Him as they point men to follow the organization, not taking of the emblems of Christ sacrifice. This is not a small issue.
abr
All nations becamed blessed because of Abraham's FAITH! I believe in adjusting but you can't forever use this used as an excuse for immoral behavior.
Golf
Many Jehovah’s Witnesses will state the nation of Israel
had many flaws , but God did not abandon them.
There is a difference here:
The flaws of the Nation of Israel were in its behaviour & attitude towards their God but in terms of its teachings not one letter of the Law was ever adjusted or changed in any way by any member, any King not even Moses throughout the Law's duration. This is in sharp contrast to the JW's who throughout their history from its inception by CT Russell it has continously altered its beliefs & teachings not to mention its many false prophecies.
Question: If the JW religion is supposedly 'Gods Spirit Directed Organisation' why would he allow it to make so many errors in this way?
LFCV
My answer would be quite simple. Jehovah did indeed turn his back on the nation of Israel as a whole. Jesus called their religious leaders "hypocrites".
How about this:
The nation of Israel were "God's people" because of promises made to their ancestors. Until those promises were fulfilled they continued to be "God's people" regardless of their conduct. When that conduct became bad enough, God corrected it.
Jehovah's Witnesses claim to be "God's people" not because of promises made to their ancestors, but because of their conduct. It can't be taken as a given that they would continue to be "God's people" were their conduct to become an issue. God is under no obligation either to correct them or keep them.
Beep beep,
Care to point out those inaccuracies you found in Crisis of Conscience?
If the society is serving what they call,"Proper and Timely Spiritual Food", notice the word timely, then there is no need to adjust it. The word "Adjust" is wrongly used in this case. The word ,"Mistaken" is the proper one to use. They have been mistaken ever since 1876, that is a lot of years to say that what was once 'proper and timely', needed to be adjusted. This is no little mistake, it's a BIG MISTAKE! that has gone on for too, too long. Of course they are very clever on using words to dismiss all their mistakes.
Blueblades
I was registered with a JW board some days ago. There was a thread on the role of natural Israel in the divine purpose. JW stated that Israel could not be God's people any longer. They also pointed out from the Proclaimers-book that one sign was that Israel joined the United Nations. When I asked what this meant for the recent JW involvement with the UN I was deleted. :-)
"And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free..."
" Right, and let me see those witness go to their PO's and tell them they read this book and not be disfellowshipped"
Here's one. I borrowed this book from MY P.O. Nice try but no cigar!
