One wonders what kind of Angels are guiding a deceitful organisation like this, to the extend that they have angelic direction it has to be demonic as no Holy Angels would want to bring anyone into an exploitative cult.
Faith in angelic help waning? WT March 1 and March 15, 2007
by truthseeker 26 Replies latest jw friends
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Leolaia
Here are some quotes from the past on this subject:
"And in conjunction with it there has been angelic aid in declaring the 'good news,' for how often it has happened that a sincere person has prayed to God for help, only to find one of Jehovah’s Witnesses standing at his door! And how often has a Witness been guided by some unusual circumstance to call at a home when spiritual aid is needed the most!" (15 July 1979 Watchtower, p. 15).
"Take the case of a young woman in New Zealand. The Witness who first called on her noticed that she was 'uptight emotionally and obviously worked up over something.' Later this person admitted that 'she had been going to commit suicide and had decided to pray to God first to ask him to help her.' At that point the Witness knocked on her door, so she really 'thanked God for answering her prayer.' Was this a coincidence? Then why do similar things happen so often? What did Jesus say? 'When the Son of man arrives in his glory, and all the angels with him, . . . he will separate people one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats' (Matthew 25:31, 32; see also Revelation 14:6.)" (15 December 1985 Watchtower, p. 20).
"Revelation here reveals that invisible angels are also involved in this preaching work. How often angelic guidance has been apparent in bringing one of Jehovah’s Witnesses to a home where some distressed soul was yearning, even praying, for spiritual help!" (Revelation Climax, 1988, p. 205).
"When the doorbell rings, he may look through a peephole, and many doors remain closed to Jehovah’s Witnesses. But they do not lose heart. The Witnesses know that the angels can locate righteously disposed individuals" (15 May 1990 Watchtower, p. 22).
"Is it true that angels are involved in this preaching work? Well, it certainly seems clear that angelic guidance has often brought Jehovah’s Witnesses to a home where some distressed soul was yearning, even praying, for spiritual help!" (15 October 1995 Watchtower, p. 12).
"True, it is beyond human ability to determine if and to what extent the angels were directly involved in these experiences. Still, we should never doubt that Jesus and the angels play an active role in the preaching work and that Jehovah can guide matters as he sees fit" (1 July 2000 Watchtower, p. 15).
"There is considerable evidence of angelic support for our work. For example, we often hear that in the course of their ministry, Jehovah’s Witnesses come across a person who had only recently prayed to God for help in finding the truth. Such experiences occur far too often to be dismissed as mere coincidences" (15 December 2004 Watchtower, p. 18).
"Proof of angelic help has often been related in Bible literature published by Jehovah's witnesses. Such experiences are far too numerous to be dismissed as coincidence" (1 March 2007 Watchtower, p. 24).
"The angels have also guided Witnesses to deserving ones. This would explain why it is that on so many occasions - too often to be called just coincidence - one of Jehovah's Witnesses meets a person at the precise time that he or she is going through a crisis and needs spiritual help" (15 March 2007 Watchtower, p. 21).
Interestingly, the talk about "doubting" or "dismissing" the role of angels is more recent overall (as well as the loaded term "proof"), although the possibility of "coincidence" was mentioned in the 1985 article. It's also odd that we have two statements on the same subject just weeks apart. I wonder if this may be related to the "new light" on the separation of the sheep and goats in 1995, which eliminated a favorite and oft-cited proof-text (namely, Matthew 25) for this belief.
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VM44
I am quite serious about a statistical analysis being done.
Without having done any such analysis, the Watchotwer writer's claim, "Such experiences are far too numerous to be dismissed as coincidence", is unsupported.
Fuzzy thinking is basic took in the Watchtower writer's toolbox.
Probably writing a serious letter to the Watchtower with regard to this matter would be a waste of time. They would reply, if at all, with some lame answer.
--VM44
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moshe
The Mormon missionaries tell the same type of stories- a personal crisis and guess who shows up at their door , why they do! I told a Mormon who explained to me how the missionaries showed up at his door in answer to his prayer to God to show him the true religion," so then, if Jehovah's Witnesses had been working your street that day instead of the Mormons, then you would be a JW today!" He was perplexed by that comment and had no good answer. People just don't stop and calculate that these stories could just be coincidence and the law of averages, nothing more.
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VM44
Can anyone find out the name of the person at Bethel who wrote these articles?
--VM44
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VM44
"Then why do similar things happen so often?"
Yes, How often do similar thing happen?
Are any figures supplied to answer the question? No!
The writer tried to present proof of his statement by asking a rhetorical question.
If pressed for specifics, I highly doubt that the writer could present the volume of experiences that is implied to exist.
--VM44
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tall penguin
Hey VM44 you seem pretty steamed up by this. I am too. This kind of reasoning typifies the wishful thinking so prevalent in, not only the jw's, but in religion in general. It is this lack of logic and rational thought that makes humans gullible and easily taken advantage of.
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VM44
This type of subjective, fuzzy, wishful thinking by the Watchtower really shows that it would be a waste of valuable time communicating with them.
It also shows that it is a waste of valuable time talking about all the stupidity of the Watchtower has shown over the years. They have created their own world to live in. They have their own deviant view of reality in which they will live out their lives and eventually die believing. Let them all have it. It's their choice to believe nonsense if they want to.
--VM44
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VM44
Hi tall penguin.
Yes, I am steamed!
The Watchtower making statements and then offers "proof" that is not proof at all, just empty words.
But then, they have done that all throughout the years, so what else is new?
I think I will go now and see what my cats are doing.
--VM44
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SirNose586
Plenty of these churches have this "an angel was sent to me" hook to show people that there is a divine hand in the work. The possibility is much higher that all are wrong, as opposed to only one church being right.