Science vs. Religion - Must We Choose Between Them?

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  • Asheron
    Asheron

    Im just stopping by to not add a thing to this thread........Oh I want.....but Im not.

    Ash

  • Handsome Dan
    Handsome Dan

    Kid is the word !

  • zagor
    zagor

    ::Religion is man's first failed attempt at science.

    Yep, that said everything I wanted to say. Nuff said!

    Oh yes, just another thought, science and religion work on completely different plains. Science (and there are many scientific disciplines here so what exactly are you referring to?) works through deductive logic, whereas in religion there is no particular need for logic as long as one has faith. After all who can understand mysteries of god?!? Am I wrong?
    Totally different premises, totally different concepts and ways of obtaining an answer. Ever wonder why it is always religious people who somehow try to marry science and religion and hardly ever other way around?

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    I think that science and spirituality potentialy might work together. However, at the present time, science's measuring devices are not sensitive enough or not tuned for anything of the spiritual nature. For instance, the study of chi/qi would be a good, nonreligious field for scientific study.

    S

  • Madame Quixote
    Madame Quixote

    Scientific research of metaphysical concepts is always fascinating and most illuminating, Satanus.

    Check out "Flying Carpets And Celestial Lab Rats" a short article in Scientific American:

    http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=000F3258-4028-1179-B50383414B7FFE9F

  • Madame Quixote
    Madame Quixote

    James Thomas, I am sure you did not intend to insult me with your previous comment about what is 'fluttering around in my little mind.' I am sure that you are far above that. And since you are so interested in genuine reality - at least in your personal interpretation of it without using any "filters" - you will probably enjoy learning more about the mind:

    http://blog.sciam.com/index.php?cat=33

  • Madame Quixote
    Madame Quixote

    I certainly agree with you, James on this point:

    " . . . the mind's activity actually hides the reality . . ."

    Unless the reality being sought is avoidance of reality, which most religions do ssem to teach.

  • Jeffro
    Jeffro

    Ah... the old 'non-overlapping magisteria' argument. Yawn.

  • Madame Quixote
    Madame Quixote

    that one does get on my nerves.

    non-overlapping mystical/deferntial mumbo-jumbo

    "the sting in the tail is that this work still tempts us to believe that decision quality is simply a question of psychology (in this case, one of matching cognitive load to cognitive resources) rather than also a question of politics, ideology and group membership. Avoiding such social considerations in a quest for general appeal can take us away from enlightenment rather than towards it. Think about it."

    - Alex Haslam in Sci American blog, "I Think Therefore I Err" http://blog.sciam.com/index.php?cat=33

  • serotonin_wraith
    serotonin_wraith

    I wanted to get this pic up, but I don't know how to embed it in my post. It's a flowchart of religion and science.

    http://www.wellingtongrey.net/miscellanea/archive/2007-01-15%20--%20science%20vs%20faith.png

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