Is the USA Government Imperialistic? Is this what leads the invasion of Ira (page 8)

Justice-One

It's funny that the finding of those "WMD's" didn't make a bigger splash in the news. I wonder why?

Me too.

Did Saddam use WMD's on his own people or not? We both know the answer is yes, so he did indeed have them.

Justice-One

Of course not. Again, provide us with some dates as to when Saddam used these weapons. And what exact remnants of WMD's did they find? Were they still lethal? Usable?

He used mustard gas on the Kurds. That is unless you don't believe this....or that Hitler tried to kill the Jews.

Justice-One

What we need on this Board is a Republican with a brain to liven up the debates.

Why? I would be totally lost on the brain dead socialists which are the majority here.

Justice-One

Funny where I live they don't it's a private well system and my teeth pay for it.

Then you still must have your baby teeth 5go. Adult teeth do not benefit from this poison.

Well at this point I really don't care if Bush goes after WMD's or not. I live in a part of the country that has less than a two percent chance of getting fallout from any NBC event. (And I'm ready just in case my luck is really bad that day.) Maybe all the people that don't want Bush to do anything will get their wish....and get thinned out of the gene pool in the process when one of these truly rouge states puts a nuke or dirty bomb up their ass.

tetrapod.sapien

lol, so mustard gas is a WMD now? so what's next, you guys are gonna invade any country with bullets?

tetra

Justice-One

lol, so mustard gas is a WMD now?

I thought that is what he used on the Kurds? Or did he use something else to kill everyone in those villages?

But hell, your right...mustard gas isn't that bad. After all, it takes you on average a whole 5 weeks to die a very painful death from it. Victims had to be strapped to their beds to scream until they died. .... yeah, no big deal.

5go

Yeah since we the USA gave him that batch. National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice recently told the BBC, "There is a very powerful moral case for regime change" in Iraq. On Sept. 12 at the United Nations, President Bush made a similar case for an attack on Iraq, calling liberty for Iraqis a "great moral cause" and justifying a regime change on the grounds that "Saddam Hussein attacked Iran in 1980" and "gassed many Iranians and 40 Iraqi villages."
Future U.S. actions against Iraq will be guided by many considerations. We must not deceive ourselves that "morality" is one of them. During the Iran-Iraq war of 1980-88, the United States was deeply complicit both in Iraq’s invasion and its gas attacks.
Over almost a decade, the United States gave Iraq about $5 billion in aid and encouraged allies to provide it with billions worth of arms, including technology reportedly used in plants making mustard and nerve gas. According to a 1994 Senate Committee Report, U.S. firms also supplied Iraq with biological materials, including anthrax, botulism and E. coli bacteria.

Hey justice who gave him the gas in the first place ! ( hint see above quote)

Kind of like who trained osama, the CIA

Justice-One

including technology reportedly used in plants making mustard and nerve gas.

Hey I have a spoon in my kitchen drawer. I wonder if that could be considered some "tecnology used" if someone used it to make weps?

And as for the agents that were supposedly given him? Yeah, right. These have been outlawed as weapons of war in the US since the early 70's. I'm sure that US firms could deal in this stuff like it was candy right?

Hey, 5go....I got a bridge I'd like to sell you. It's a really good price. Interested?

5go

According to a 1994 Senate Committee Report, U.S. firms also supplied Iraq with biological materials, including anthrax, botulism and E. coli bacteria.

He justice I got the info on the whereabouts of the WMD's. Their in a bunker just north, east, west, and south of bagdad.

To quote field marshall rumsfield. Seeing as he over saw the importation of them in the 1980's he would know.

During his period as Reagan's Special Envoy to the Middle East (November 1983 – May 1984), Rumsfeld was the main conduit for crucial American military intelligence, hardware and strategic advice to Saddam Hussein, then fighting Iran in the Iran-Iraq war. This policy was adopted when the war began to go strongly in Iran's favor, and it looked as if Iran would overrun Iraq completely. Although the United States was hesitant to support a Soviet client state, the prospect of a greatly expanded Iran outweighed these concerns. When he visited on December 19 – December 20, 1983, he and Saddam Hussein had a 90-minute discussion that covered Syria's occupation of Lebanon, preventing Syrian and Iranian expansion, preventing arms sales to Iran by foreign countries, increasing Iraqi oil production via a possible new oil pipeline across Jordan. According to declassified U.S. State Department documents Rumsfeld also informed Tariq Aziz (Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister) that: "Our efforts to assist were inhibited by certain things that made it difficult for us ... citing the use of chemical weapons." [11]

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US and British companies are among several Western firms that sell Iraq materials that can be used to develop nuclear, chemical, biological, and conventional weapons. [ Associated Press, 12/21/2002 ; New York Times, 12/21/2002

Is the USA Government Imperialistic? Is this what leads the invasion of Ira

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