by Satanus 25 Replies latest jw friends
Jag
Could be one of those albino chinese.
Else
Not stop raising em, just build barns for them, so they can be moved out of the kitchens and bedrooms.
Tet
We can dream.
Mis
Yea, some people just let things go too far.
MQ
Kissing is all about fusion, exchanging chemicals and stuff like that. Well, if you're not into it, you're not into it. Bet you did something, though, having a daughter and all.
Leolaia
It's an evocative picture. I don't like it, really.
S
Bigtex
Sounds like a good farside.
Ona
So, surviving that thing was just the first stage of my survival.
Un org, who is working in the various chinese cities to study and keep track of new strains. Who is working on getting them to change their close cohabitation style.
S
Here is a report about how the evil peace beast, led by satan has been working to stop this flu generation system in china:
A steadfast and determined World Health Organization, fighting off a mysterious and deadly disease, all in the face of enormous Chinese secrecy … That’s the image the WHO has worked hard to cultivate. But take a closer look at the period before the SARS crisis and a very different picture images. The fact is, China and the WHO have had a close working relationship for years.
The WHO in China
A market in Guangdong Province.
You'd never know from the way the World Health Organization talked that they actually had an office in China. They do. It’s in Beijing, with a staff of thirty.
What's more, the WHO has spent millions over the years training Chinese scientists and building a massive influenza detection network. After all, 80 percent of new flu strains start in China.
If you’re in the business of spotting new strains of flu -or any other emerging disease- there’s no place more important to watch than Guangdong Province in southern China. Scientists call it “Pandemic Central.”
“Guangdong has a very high population density, very many animals are living there,” says Dr. Klaus Stohr, head of the WHO’s influenza team. “[They’re in] very close proximity to humans and that’s the ideal breeding ground for the emergence of pandemic influenza viruses.”
In the fall of 2002, Dr. Stohr travelled from Geneva to Beijing to attend an influenza conference. And so began the story of the WHO and SARS – the three crucial months before the deadly disease escaped from China.
S
It's easier said than done, the Chinese peasant population is massive and they don't have the money to put their animals at a safe distance. Had we still been in the days before air and other modern forms of travel then it would have been difficult for colds and flus to spread globally.
the Chinese peasant population is massive and they don't have the money to put their animals at a safe distance.
W a booming economy and huge changes from peasant style living towards factories/manufacturing and consumption, the point is, this is changing. The govt which works hand in glove w the manufacturing companies has the abilities that are needed for large societal change, such as is this animal/human cohabitation. The govt has proved that it has the will and the way for something like this when it brought in and enforced the one child law.
Had we still been in the days before air and other modern forms of travel then it would have been difficult for colds and flus to spread globally.
It used to be slower. But, disease out of china has been the rule for centuries. For instance, the 'black death' came from there.
Between 1339 and 1351 AD, a pandemic of plague traveled from China to Europe, known in Western history as The Black Death. Carried by rats and fleas along the Silk Road Caravan routes and Spice trading sea routes, the Black Death reached the Mediterranean Basin in 1347, and was rapidly carried throughout Europe from what was then the center of European trade. Eventually, even areas of European settlement as isolated as Viking settlements in Greenland would be ravaged by the plague. By the time these plagues had run their course in 1351, between 25 and 50% of the population of Europe was dead. An equally high toll was exacted from the populations of Arabia, North Africa, South Asia, and East Asia.
http://www.american.edu/TED/bubonic.htm
This gives an idea of what this chinese incubation process has been and is continuing to cost the rest of the world.
S
Satanus, it appears that you may be recuperating!
Another possibility: That such epidemic processes (from whatever source) have always been the norm in human society, but characteristically limited in scope by reason of limited interaction between various localized groups of people. Thus (insofar as I understand the mechanism of transmission of the Plague), there would not have been a worldwide decimation of the population except for the large-scale shipping industry.
This is the basis upon which many "doomsdayers" predict the next major depopulation of the earth: By the time a virulent infection has even been identified, it will have already spread beyond containment (via international air travel, etc.).
to stop the flu migrating from China you'd have to stop birds and people from flying around the world. I went to China four times and came back sick each time. Not necessarily because of anything I caught in China, but because of 0% humidity on airplanes, and recycling of air without sanitizing it. It's the airplanes - or the sick people on the airplanes.,/p>
I read an article from our worker's comp provider in California that "presenteeism" costs industry more than "absenteeism" since people who go to work sick infect a lot of other people. we'd all get sick a lot less if we stayed home when we are sick. Stay home and don't infect other people. last time I got a cold, it was from a bank teller who sneezed while taking care of my transaction and then said "I can't wait to go home, I am so sick." I complained to the bank manager but it didn't do any good.
The reason i am ranting about this is, we have a policy at my business. Don't come to work or to class sick. If you do I'll send you home. we also emphasize hand washing to an almost obsessive degree and have gallons of hand sanitizer sitting around. We have some sanitizing spray for phones and doorknobs and computers and so on. As a result of being this obsessive, those of us who work there haven't been sick for a few years now. So the best thing you can do is stay home and recuperate and become obsessive about hand washing. I even keep hand santizing gel in the car and use it every time I get in the car. I swipe my steering wheel with it too.
I hope you feel better soon. Stay home and stay in bed and pamper yourself. I'm sorry you have the flu.
Satanus , it appears that you may be recuperating!
Yah, i'm back on the case.
Another possibility: That such epidemic processes (from whatever source) have always been the norm in human society, but characteristically limited in scope by reason of limited interaction between various localized groups of people. Thus (insofar as I understand the mechanism of transmission of the Plague), there would not have been a worldwide decimation of the population except for the large-scale shipping industry.
If their was no travel and trade, it wouldn't spread very far. Also, they didn't know about the flee/rodent vector.
This is the basis upon which many "doomsdayers" predict the next major depopulation of the earth: By the time a virulent infection has even been identified, it will have already spread beyond containment (via international air travel, etc.).
Doomsdayers are wrong. Ok, maybe there is a small chance of something really deadly popping up. There are almost always other factors aiding the epidemics, fleas in the black death, war in the spanish influenza, wanton sex practices and poor general heath in the african aids. In past epidemics, they did not know how it was spread. Nowadays, we are bombarded w info about diseases. We have all kinds of professionals just waiting to swing into action at a sign of a threat.
Hortensia
I agree so much w what you said about just resting to get over the flu.
I hope you feel better soon. Stay home and stay in bed and pamper yourself. I'm sorry you have the flu.
Thanks, so much.
S
Nowadays, we are bombarded w info about diseases. We have all kinds of professionals just waiting to swing into action at a sign of a threat.
Well, I'm certainly no epidemiologist, but in the midst of all that "bombardment" the common theme I keep hearing is that, soon or later, a flu strain will develop against which none of the current vaccines will have any effect, and that identifying the strain and developing an efficacious vaccine would take months: It wouldn't matter if every lab in the world was working on it. In the meantime, hundreds of millions, if not billions, could die (numbers offered by those same professionals). Straightforward extrapolation of the mortality rate of previous pandemics would tend to support those numbers.
What say ye?
Straightforward extrapolation of the mortality rate of previous pandemics would tend to support those numbers.
Those extrapolations, while seeming totally logical, can easily be wrong. Here is why: new virus based disease evolves. Everybody who gets it (say ten people) dies. Based on a scenario like this, it would appear that everyone on the planet would be wiped out. However, nature doesn't work like that. Unseen factors that can derail the extrapolation are: the virus can remutate to become more benign, the majority of the population groups are not as susceptible to the disease for genetic or cultural reasons, the virus has a hard time spreading, the virus is fragile outside of a host, to name a few.
All that being said, i am ready to see some extrapolation examples.
S
