Reflections on my path to fading

by OnTheWayOut 22 Replies latest jw friends

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    I recently posted the progress of my fade. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/130346/1.ashx

    A recent face-to-face meeting with a JWD poster, AK-Jeff, caused me to reflect on how I arrived at
    the decision to fade. While the short version is in my biography, I will stretch it out a bit here in
    order to reflect on it, myself, and to help any doubters out there.

    I was always asking too many questions when I studied the doctrine before baptism. I learned to
    just blindly obey the WTS and keep those questions in my head. That allowed me to become an
    elder by 1995, with considerably less than 10 years in the religion. It felt good to be such an
    up-there company man, telling "sisters" who knew the Bible forwards and backwards (the likes of
    Blondie) from decades of learning, that I would instruct them.

    My questioning attitude resurfaced that same year when the 1995 doctrinal change for "This Generation"
    came out in the WT magazine. I remember the meeting we covered the information. I thought this was
    such a huge deal. People will be all abuzz about it. NOPE. It was covered in the typical Q&A style, and
    we moved on. Afterward, I tried to converse with others about it. Some got it, while others didn't even
    notice the change. The ones who got it just accepted it. "They must be right because it's been so long
    since 1914." That didn't sit well with me. Their own teaching was wrong, but they must be right now, or
    else the end would have come. That's circular reasoning. If they were right, it would have happened. They
    changed their understanding, and it didn't happen, so they were wrong, but since they changed, they are
    right now. No room for "wrong then, wrong now." I had already learned my lesson and decided that a
    young new elder should just accept the teaching, but I vowed to get back to it, one day.

    Even though I was accepting the doctrinal change, I decided to plan for my future. From that WT study,
    onward, I wanted to be ready for this system to continue on into retirement. I didn't go to college, but
    I planned and prepared for a good secular career, and I got a great career, I love it. I will refrain from details,
    but it required dedication and missing meetings. I told the brothers that it would allow me to pioneer in a few
    years after I was established.

    I actually did pioneer for one year after establishing myself, as I told the brothers. I knew I kept saying I would,
    and I hoped that Jehovah's spirit would bless me, removing any lingering doubts (still had them). I also started
    allowing my wife to pursue an education goal of a master's degree after that 1995 WT study, as she would need
    to retire in this system with me. She's still a faithful JW, but she has an education, and believes that all JW
    children in the USA (and other places) really needs a good education.

    Instead of eleviating doubt, the year of pioneering raised more red flags of doubt. I remember one day in recruiting,
    I talked with a genuine hippy. He was very friendly. He asked if God was so vain that He expected me to spend
    all my time praising him in this door-to-door work, and if God wouldn't forgive all the ignorant masses out there
    for never believing the message of these strange Jehovah's Witnesses that come to their door with nice printed
    hand-outs? It was a lengthy conversation, and I was polite, but I could not dispute his points. How could
    Armageddon be imminent if the only warning God gave was nicely dressed nuts with nicely printed hand-outs?
    Also, the year of showing no love was upon me. If a "spiritual family" needed help, sorry, I was pioneering. "Yes,
    I have a pickup truck, but I have no time for helping you move." If a publisher needed spiritual guidance from an
    elder, "You will have to come out preaching with me on Saturday, and we'll discuss it."

    When it came time to go to pioneer school, I thought I would learn the Bible better. Instead, I learned the WT literature
    better. My pioneer school was full of bored retired ladies and one retired man, and college-age girls still living at home,
    with no real financial future in mind. I was already an upwardly mobile career-oriented person who was blowing his
    vacation for this. I quit pioneering right after the course, but remained an elder, then moved to a different congregation.
    I was reluctant to become an elder again there, but they insisted.

    Along the way, I went to three different elder schools. Each was heaped in legalistic secretive "How to manage the
    sins of others without a lawsuit" kind of stuff. I finally got back to study about "this generation" and I stuck with
    WT materials or materials from non-apostate sources. I determined that Jesus might have been warning people
    not to be misled by the "sign of the last days" type of people. I asked my mother (JW disfellowshipped over 1975, who
    went back and got reinstated, but never made me go to the Hall as a teenager) about my concerns. She answered
    me with her understanding of 1975 and why the end must be imminent, but we "don't know when Eve was created and
    the 6th creative day ended....." I was confused by her understanding. I looked up what she said, and everything she
    said was in the books. I could not find where the books said, "oops, wrong again." My mother, an avid reader still
    thought this was right, so it must have been taught to her the same as "this generation is almost gone" was taught to
    me when I studied. It must have been put in the back of her mind, the same as I learned to put doubts in the back of
    mine.

    By summer, 2006, I decided that I needed to step aside as an elder, and I put a date in mind at the end of Summer.
    There's always something to delay such a big decision- one more CO visit, one more scheduled public talk, a visit
    with JW friends, etc. so I was going to stick by that date, and I did. That same summer, I decided to google Jehovah's
    Witnesses and see what I could learn. Up to that point, I was faithful to the counsel to avoid apostacy, but I knew it
    didn't matter anymore.

    Well, freeminds.org was fantastic. I learned about all these books I could read, some from a former Governing Body
    member. I didn't know that. I never heard about the UN membership. I did know about pedophiles, as they taught
    elders stuff about that. TALK SOUP was in the corner. It led me to JWD. I lurked. I learned.

    I submitted my elder resignation before ever joining JWD. I wish I read it sooner, because I chose to alert them that
    I was a doubter. I might have used depression instead of doubt if I read more JWD. No matter. What's done is done.

    Now I have faded a bit too fast for their liking, but I continue to set goals. I am about to be "inactive" in field service (meaning
    no time in 6 months) and I am at 50% meeting attendence for 4 meetings with Zero % attendence at the book study.

    I hope that helps someone. It sure helped me to type it.

  • Brother Apostate
    Brother Apostate

    Welcome and nice to see that you took the blinders off, also!

    It's great to no longer believe teachings of men.

    Life's a journey, and you're no longer on the wrong road.

    Cheers,

    BA

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    Thanks, BA- That photo suits you better.

  • Carmel
    Carmel

    Kudos!

    car

  • zack
    zack

    All the best to you!

    PSS was where I became convinced that the Truth wasn't the Truth.

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    PSS was where I became convinced that the Truth wasn't the Truth.

    Please explain what that means, Zack.

  • zack
    zack

    (PSS)Pioneer Service School:

    Going over the part in the Illuminators book on "God's Visibile Org."

    CO: Why is it vital for us to understand and identify correctly who God is using as his Org. today?

    Zack: Because if my ever lasting future depends on it, I better be sure of whom I am following"-- I felt a click in my phyche--- deep in there somewhere

    Some more discussion, questions. Then the CO says after we are all agreed that the FDS in the form of the WTS is God's Org:

    CO: Can you imagine? At only 37 years old Nathan Knorr was appointed over all of God's belongings on Earth! Can you just imagine that? And only 37!"

    It was at that moment THAT I COULD NOT IMAGINE IT. It was a great big CRACK in my psyche that had opened up.

    And then, like you said, the school wasn't about the Bibile or God or knowledge or growing in relation to Christ, it was about the WTS and selling books.

    And I gave up my two weeks of vacation for it.

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    CO: Why is it vital for us to understand and identify correctly who God is using as his Org. today?

    Thanks, Zack.

    The CO's prodding doesn't lead to a discussion that PROVES who God is using.
    As your post shows, it only leads to the conclusion that it's important to identify correctly.
    All that means, as you help us see, is that it is vital to our everlasting survival that we
    accept the teaching that WTS is the organization God is using. Fear implanted, control
    established.

  • nvrgnbk
    nvrgnbk

    OMG! OTWO you had better believe your posts help.

    There's always something to delay such a big decision- one more CO visit, one more scheduled public talk, a visit
    with JW friends, etc. so I was going to stick by that date, and I did. That same summer, I decided to google Jehovah's
    Witnesses and see what I could learn. Up to that point, I was faithful to the counsel to avoid apostacy, but I knew it
    didn't matter anymore.

    Well, freeminds.org was fantastic. I learned about all these books I could read, some from a former Governing Body
    member. I didn't know that. I never heard about the UN membership. I did know about pedophiles, as they taught
    elders stuff about that. TALK SOUP was in the corner. It led me to JWD. I lurked. I learned.

    I submitted my elder resignation before ever joining JWD.

    I could have written the above word-for-word of my own case and it would all be true. This makes me wonder how many more guys are out there going through exactly the same thing. The repeated counsel about apostates and doubters would suggest that this is a huge problem.

    Glad you're finding your way through the maze,

    Nvr

    P.S.- Thanks for contributing to my exit.

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut
    OMG! OTWO you had better believe your posts help.

    Outstanding.
    I did my good deed for the day (well, the other day when I posted the thread).

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