ETs - the Objection that Cannot be Overcome

by metatron 29 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Jringe01
    Jringe01
    Think about this: Why is it that civilization in Central-America and even in Egypt once day jump out of the jungle/desert and boom - pyramids that rival anything built? How did the ancients in Central-America with no concept of the wheel lift 40ton+ rocks without pulleys/cranes, or transport them? Why is it that cocaine residue has been found on Egyptian mummies, yet cocaine only grows in Central-America? No records exist with trade between the two cultures, yet these buildings go up almost simultaniously. Why is it when you look at these cultures, especially the Central American cultures and technology that it is almost like they skipped steps A, and B, and boom, arrived at C. It would be like you, the engineer, giving your child the answer, but never how to arrive at the solution. Think about that for a second. How could these primitive cultures cut stones so perfect that the gap between each stone is 1/200th of an inch! Corners are not broken which means that the stones were not dragged. The angles on the corners are perfect 90 degrees, rivals a laser transit. While all the time they only had simple copper tools? Yea right...

    I for one have and NEVER will believe the assertion that past generations were less intelligent than we are now. The fact that the Romans buit roads that are still inuse yet ours need to be rebuilt every few decades in addition to the quote above prove this beyond a shadow of a doubt.

    I believe that religion has caused us to regress. For example: can you imagine where we'd be if we hadn't gone through the dark ages? In my belief the people of old were much like we are now. The intervening years of Jewish, Christian and Islamic (etc) religion have retarded our growth as a species. Like a pendelum on a clock we have now swung back the other way because the ways advocated by religion have only proven to be a detrement and people are starting to wake up and realize this.

    Regardless of whether you believe in UFO's or angels there is life out there somewhere. We cannot be alone. If you believe in evolution then the causes that allowed us to evolve must have been reproduced somewhere else. The universe is afterall infinite and if the odds of us evolving are so astronomical (as the JW creation book claims) then logic dictates that Earth cannot be the only example of this type of evolution happening.

    To me it doesn't matter if there are angels or UFO's out there. That's irrelevant. What matters is our growth as a species. We need to shed all those doctrines that hold us back and advance into the future together. The sad part is that most people feel this can't be done. This however is a lie, one spread to halt our progress. JW's like to claim that mankind cannot solve it's problems. This is simply NOT TRUE! It's not that we cannot, it's that we will not. And that's because too many of us are still beholden to these backwards concepts and beliefs that they refuse to shed.

    I believe there is life of some sort out there and I hope that all these unexplained "UFO" sightings and mysterious events are an attempt to make us realize that there are bigger and more important things out there than the infantile concepts that most people are curerently enslaved to would have us believe. Having this knowledge given to us would be a mistake. Only by discovering it for ourselves can we truely progress and advance.

  • Kudra
    Kudra

    Interesting that all of these UFO sightings started to happen at the same time the US and other world powers developed and more commonly used rockets and high powered jets and airplanes.

    Where were these "sightings" 100 years ago or 1000 years ago?

    If there are indeed aliens visiting us then we would have had sightings throughout history not just since the advent and use of machines that LOOK like UFOs.

    Suspicious to me...

  • metaspy
    metaspy

    I had a teacher in school who had the same theory. God/Angels/Demons = Aliens/ExtraTerrestrials

    With that being said, I also personally knew of some JWs who claimed to have seen aliens or UFOs.
    One such brother said he ran back to the coffee shop where he had come from and grabbed a few patrons to witness this also. When they returned, the UFO was still where he left it.

    Is it feasible? Sure. A science teacher of mine said that you can part salt water using a super magnetic force. Certainly ETs would know this, especially if they are technologically advanced.

    The argument about Central America and Egypt having similar technology and products about the same time, I attribute that to continental drift.

    Sorry about the random ramblings...

  • LittleToe
    LittleToe

    As others have mentioned, the idea that anything that lives and is not "terrestial" in origin is by default an ET is neither original nor unrealistic. SciFi writers have developed such ideas for decades, pulling in a whole gamut of themes from high-technology to telepathy. By current scientific measurements this universe is certainly old enough and large enough for such being to both exist and be more advanced than us.

    For those that have never had such contact (whether described as a religious experience or an alien encounter) there's little that would prove such a concept to them. That our civilisations and terminology has evolved would supply a reason for why "God" as specifically described in the bible does not appear to reveal Himself, but other manifestations are recounted.

    Unfortunately its another area of life that has been so thoroughly ridiculed that its almost impossible to have a reasonable discussion on the subject without a few eyebrows shooting up.

  • LanDi
    LanDi

    Well, its a very interesting theory one that I have pondered at very much over the years. Maybe, the Bible was written not by God but by ETs and so on, but the JWs denounce all disagreements to their " TRUTH " as ignorance or wickedness, despite the fact that others may simply not just believe it, as the Budda say " We are what arises within our minds, with our thoughts we make our world.".

    If there is no super top secret conspiricy, why is Area 51 ( size of Nevada desert) of the strictest secret - highest security nofly area ? What's in there that is so secret you will be fired upon if you do not turn back ?

    When asked about Alien visitors ex UK prime minister Maggie Thatcher (boo hiss) responce in private was (alledgedly) " You can't tell the people .". How interesting. What's really going on ?

    But, the world is very different to what we think. The Bible said that the world was round thousands of years ago (JOB) which the Jehovahs Witnesses shout from the highest hill. Yet the Egyptians, knew the EXACT circumfurence of the globe (we know from measuring the pyramids and their relative positions) which is a far far greater acheivement. How could they possibly know ? They would have to have travelled the length and breadth of the earth, or at least, BEEN IN CONTACT with someone who had. We know from ancient maps, that while man was alive - the South Atlantic was where Africa is now. In other words, man had been travelling the world extensively BEFORE the Egyptians had been here! Truth is stranger than fiction.............

    And we ask, what really is the truth ??????? It isn't clear cut.

  • funkyderek
    funkyderek

    LanDi:

    Well, its a very interesting theory one that I have pondered at very much over the years. Maybe, the Bible was written not by God but by ETs and so on,

    No, it was written by men, thousands of years ago. It contains nothing that would suggest otherwise.

    but the JWs denounce all disagreements to their " TRUTH " as ignorance or wickedness, despite the fact that others may simply not just believe it,

    So what? JWs shouldn't be used as any sort of yardstick.

    as the Budda say " We are what arises within our minds, with our thoughts we make our world.".

    Again, who cares? In reality, the world is independent of our thoughts.

    If there is no super top secret conspiricy, why is Area 51 ( size of Nevada desert)

    Isn't it in the Nevada desert?

    of the strictest secret - highest security nofly area ? What's in there that is so secret you will be fired upon if you do not turn back ?

    Hmm, it's owned by the Department of Defense and the Air Force, so I'm going to go out on a limb and say - military aircraft. Perhaps it's used for testing new aircraft and weapons. It's normal for the military to be a bit secretive about such things.

    When asked about Alien visitors ex UK prime minister Maggie Thatcher (boo hiss) responce in private was (alledgedly) " You can't tell the people .". How interesting. What's really going on ?

    What's going on is that somebody just made that up. Because there's no evidence for aliens visiting Earth, those who wish to believe it and want others to believe it simply invent things. By whom is the above conversation alleged to have taken place? Who did she tell who told the people? Nobody, of course. But I can't prove that. So it adds to the "heap of evidence" that's so common in conspiracy theories.

    But, the world is very different to what we think.

    It's certainly very different to what you think.

    The Bible said that the world was round thousands of years ago (JOB)

    No, it didn't. At least it didn't say the world is spherical, even though this was known by other ancient people. It's quite easily deduced by astronomical observations.

    which the Jehovahs Witnesses shout from the highest hill.

    No surprise that they're wrong again.

    Yet the Egyptians, knew the EXACT circumfurence of the globe

    No, they didn't.

    (we know from measuring the pyramids and their relative positions)

    No, we don't.

    which is a far far greater acheivement.

    It certainly would be. It's easy to figure that the world is round, a little more difficult to measure its circumference.

    How could they possibly know ? They would have to have travelled the length and breadth of the earth, or at least, BEEN IN CONTACT with someone who had.

    No they wouldn't.

    We know from ancient maps, that while man was alive - the South Atlantic was where Africa is now.

    No we don't, because it wasn't.

    In other words, man had been travelling the world extensively BEFORE the Egyptians had been here!

    Humans had already spread all over the world by the time of the ancient Egyptians but no one person had done so.

    Truth is stranger than fiction.............

    Well, what you've got there is fiction

    And we ask, what really is the truth ??????? It isn't clear cut.

    Sometimes it is.

  • metatron
    metatron

    Ask yourself, what sort of things can be "hidden in plain sight", so to speak, in the world?

    True or false:

    Every year, business and political leaders from all over the world meet together under tight security

    ( guards with automatic weapons) in a location kept from public view, to discuss how the world

    should be run. The event is generally kept out of all major newspapers and media outlets worldwide

    and members of the press are not allowed to report on what is discussed.

    True or false:

    A US president negotiated about nuclear weapons treaties while sinking into Alzheimers

    True or false:

    A world famous black woman referred to the US President as "my husband"

    True or false:

    The US government may have been threatened by a military coup and replacement by

    a military junta.

    True or false:

    The world came within a hair's breadth of ending in the 1960's - TWICE!

    metatron

  • nvrgnbk
    nvrgnbk
    That would mean that Jesus must have been the hybrid offspring of a human female(Mary) and an extraterrestrial male being. How erotic!

    Everything's sex with you, aint it Buddy.

  • metatron
    metatron

    here's another:

    True or false:

    A US president ( within this century) used to expose himself by whipping out his genitals

    to emphasize points during discussions with the press.

    metatron

  • metatron
    metatron

    Here's the answers:

    A yearly international meeting in which the most powerful people secretly discuss how things should

    be governed that's kept out of the world press? True! Do a Google on "Bilderberg"

    A US President dealing with nuclear arms while sinking into Alzheimers? True!

    Members of the press were asked about this omission after Reagan left office - and they replied

    that the President was popular and well-loved and they didn't want to 'get into' his obvious

    problems.

    A black woman who called the President "my husband"? True!

    http://www.nndb.com/people/205/000024133/

    Was the US government nearly overthrown by a military junta? Maybe!

    During the 1930's General Smedley Butler claimed that he was approached by bigwigs

    who wanted this. A Congressional investigation couldn't pin it down. It's credible,

    given 1) the emergence of fascism back then 2) how much some rich people hated FDR

    and 3) political tension during the Depression.

    The world almost ended twice in the 60's? True! Actually, twice may be understating it.

    Read "Red Star Rogue" for one episode. Also, Soviet subs had nuclear torpedoes and local

    authority to fire them during the Cuban missile blockade.

    A US President who used to 'whip it out' in press interviews during this century? False!

    It's a trick question! ( you thought it was Clinton!). It was LBJ in the previous century.

    Various members ( "members"??!!) of the press reported on this. Some thought it was funny.

    Now, do you see what sort of stuff gets kept out of the headlines and history books?

    Do you think there is a LOT MORE to this UFO stuff than anyone is being told? I do.

    metatron

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