THE HAPPY FACTOR (page 2)

mouthy

I was a very happy JW.I thought it was the way I could work off all the "sins" I had committed before I knew the "truth?"I even used to pray to Jehovah that I didnt care if I never made Paradise,as long as I could work for him & get all into the ARK!!!!
Because they had taught me that when I became a fully fledged JW I would be persecuted & then when my hubby would beat me to stop..And my parents would laugh at me thinking I was working for GOD such a "bad girl" it proved they were right
I believe my daughter will never leave even if she knew of the lies. ,because she is in a very unhappy marriage & has good friends in the organization.& because they tell her I am of the devil,& I was such a strict judgemental JW she has no trouble believing them....
But thank God for Randy,Ray Franz,Jim Penton,Bill Cetnar. I saw the light at the end of the tunnell

Mrs Smith

My parents stay cause they have nothing else. They got involved with the JW only a little while after coming to South Africa, so they only have JW friends. They don't have any family in SA, their whole life revolves arounf the WBTS. None of the kids have stayed in the "truth". If they leave they would have to start all over again. Making new friends and finding a new routine. It was hard enough for me to do it but I was young enough to make new friends and get on with life.

jaguarbass

Why are there many Witnesses who enjoy the organization immensely?

The answer that pops in my head is because they are child like and the kingdom belongs to them. That's the same answer that pops in my head for born again Christians, baptist, pentacostal, scientologist. Simple people can find happiness in delusion.

The witnesses dont have to be resonsible so they can be happy. They don't have to worry about retirement or taking care of their health or where there going to live. Also they probably get a lot of good vibes serving an immagianary god.

garybuss

It's a world where everything makes sense . . . in context. All of life's and all of philosophy's hard questions are answered and the socially challenged can lose their loneliness for a few hours a week.

mouthy

Simple people can find happiness in delusion.

As a simple person I am so happy to be born again.....It is a peace I never ever knew before .But we all have our own thoughts dont we?? I see were you have yours. I guess you dont consider yourself a simple person > what do you think you are brainy??? Inquiring minds like to know

joannadandy

I guess my question is, if it makes them happy and they would be worse off without it in their lives - why is that a bad thing?

For those who genuinely believe it's the truth, who follow it all with no hipocracy - I guess I have no problem with them.

Flame on -

Dogpatch

I am with Arthur and Bernadette on this one. I was truly happy, not a guise. But as others have said, it is kind of an ignorant bliss, something the Germans might have felt in WW2 before it dawned on them what a costly and deadly mind control system it was. To me it was an escape from my self-loathing life at the time, and the idea of "the harder you work, the better off you'll be" was important as a goal of conquering my fears. I was never concerned about "losing my salvation" since I had years earlier made my peace with God (while a Baptist) and I guess I always really believed in salvation by grace. But works gave me perks! :-))

Sometimes we carry into the Watchtower (assuming we weren't raised into it) some of the religious preconceptions that we already have, and don't fully realize that the WT system does not support them at all. That was my revelation in 1980 when I left Bethel.

What Happened at the World Headquarters of Jehovah's Witnesses in the Spring of 1980?
Randy's Scrapbook from Bethel - fellow workers pictures Randy's Letter of resignation to the Governing Body

Randy

ex-nj-jw

I know I never really was happy with it. I even dreamed of leaving it when I was a kid. So why are some of my family so happy with it? I mean, the "raised in its" like me, not the converted. And if you are a guy, the whole thing can be pretty sweet, just walking in, with your male appendages, gets you a whole crap load of honor and respect, I guess if you call kissing elders butts and fighting over microphone handling important, you might actually feel important.

I agree with itallgoodnow - \

I was never happy "in the troof", I hated it my whole life and couldn't wait to get out. As for they male Jdubs, again they are superior just because they are male. Sick when you think about it.

nj

jam

Like most of you , I was around people who knew all the answers to life, who were certian. They did not reason or investigate. They had no doubts. They knew that they had the truth. In thier creed there was no guess--no perhaps. They had a revelation from GOD. They knew the beginning of things. They knew the origin of all things, the cause of evil, of all crime, of all disease and death. They not only knew the beginning but they knew the end. All who boudted or denied would be lost. Very powerful information. What they fail to realize is belief is not subject to the will. Men think as they must. Children do not , and cannot, believe as they were taught.They differ in temperament, in experience, in capacity, in surroundings. And so there is a continual , though almost imperceptidle change. The mind cannot and will not be securely anchored. So in other words what made me happy was a like of knowlege. But my kids it was devastating.

Anti-Christ

I totaly agree with jam. I was raised in the "truth" and I was trying to be happy but I could'nt fight what I am. It's not that sweet for all the guys. I hated the fact I always had to prove myself and be an example. I felt sick to my stomach wen I had to pass the microphones or wen I had to give a talk. I always felt guilty that I did not enjoy the "privileges" I was given.

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