THE HAPPY FACTOR (page 3)

OUTLAW

Hey Randy!..Always good to see you on the board!..Let`s face it Jehovah`s Witness`s are some of the most unhappy people on the planet..So why do they claim to be Immensly Happy?..Because..The WBT$ says so.....Jehovah`s Witness`s will say,whatever thier told to say,by the WBT$..It dosen`t matter what..It can sound stupid,it can be decietfull,it can be an outright lie..Jehovah`s Witness`s will do as thier told by the WBT$..Or..Face the consequenses...OUTLAW

hopelesslystained

My folks started with the witnesses when I was 2. All I emotionally remember from that time till about 12 was a deep sadness that my cousins would be destroyed at armageddon because their parents would not accept the jw way. No longer, after about 6yrs old was I allowed to be around them nor almost all my other relatives whom I dearly loved and considered my friends. My one Grandmother became a widow with 3 children at a young age and got sucked into the org via my Dad, so I was able to be around them ( at least they were only 3-10 yrs older than me). Neither could I make friends at school or in the neighborhood. No happiness factor there. My Grandmother did not seem happy to me either, I often cried for her. My Dad as the male figure in the now acceptable family was a tyrant and moved up quickly in the org. Still no happy factor existed that I ever felt.

I tried like !##$ to be the perfect little witness because I was promised happiness and everlasting life. Even stuck with it till my late 20's till no longer could I sit there in the kh without crying due to my unhappiness, and no, I do not have problems with depression. It was simple, I figured out later, and that is mostly none of their bull!@@@# made any intellectual sense!

Randy, I think those who tell you they are happy are lying because otherwise they feel they will miss out on the "prize". Plain and simple. they convince themselves all the misery is worth it.

lilybird

Kids smile because they are happy. they look miserable when they are miserable. We are constantly told to potray an image of happiness - a vision of the happiness to come in paradise.

Thats true enough. I remember when my sister and I were teens and walked with our jw mom to the book study and field service to our group which was just a few blocks away.We usually walked with our heads down, feeling embarrassed and hoping none of our friends saw us . A neighbour used to watch us walking to these meetings and remarked to an elder in our congregation(when he called at her door in field service) about how unhappy we looked with our heads down as we walked..We were counselled by him to walk with our heads up and smile and wave at neighbours as we walked to make a good impression of the jws.

truthsetsonefree

Let me see if this makes any kind of sense: They are unhappy and tired. Period. All of them. But...they are happy in the ignorant knowledge that they are part of the best, cleanest, purest organization on the planet and that soon it will ensure that all of their temporary unhappiness will be washed away by God's new system.

tsof

prophecor

I think it's the spirit of comraderie. The fact that everyone, for the most part is aiming for the same goal, are all striving towards the same purpose. It's almost like being in the military. The unique bonding that occurs in group settings. It's hard to associate at times with those who've been in all their natural born life, for those I have no idea what it must be like. For those who come in from the outside world, however, you get the sense that at last, I have found that which really matters in life. I've found the true religion, and I no longer need to look any further than the front door to my Kingdom Hall.

The world, as it is can be very confusing. When I came out of the world, I was very dissillusioned, beat up and the truth looked like an anchor of stability in a world gone madd. To find happiness there came rather easily, at least it did for me. That happiness, however, came at the expense of my trying to live a perfect life. Any diviation from the course, any infraction, regardless for how small brought about the ripple effect of guilt that would thereafter affect every other thought and decision I would have afterwards.

Happiness, for me was contingent upon my human doing and not as a result of my being human.

Being=NO

Doing=.............Maybe

dedpoet

I think Steven Hassan summed the jws and other cults brand of happiness
up well when, speaking of his experience as a moonie, he said "I was happy
because I was conditioned to be happy. It was considered disobedient not to
be happy".

It was the same for the Peoples Temple members who died in Jonestown.
They were queuing up to tell Jim Jones how happy they were to be part of
his organisation while the cyanide/Kool-Aid cocktail was being dished out.

As a jw, I was constantly told that I was part of an organisation of the
happiest people on earth, so I went along with it, and acted as if I was
happy as well. I was kind of comfortable, "knowing" that I was pleasing
God by being in his only true organisation, but deep down I was never
really happy as a jw, and I didn't know many other jws that really were.

dedpoet

BFD

This question really hits a nerve. I didn't even read the posts but here's my answer...

I don't know. My mom hasn't even met all her grandchildren. But last time I saw her she had on the glazed smile like she was happy. How could she be happy? The only reason I can think of is that she genuinley doesn't love her family in her heart. I would feel better if she would admit that awful truth then to continue hiding behind a watchtower.

It's the perfect excuse for her to use to avoid us. "It's not me darling, it's Jehovah." (wink, wink) The WTS serves many purposes that can make people happy.

BFD

moshe

everyone cheers you on so long as you don't stop - you can run fast, or walk.

Good point Bernadette- even when you are in a wheelchair you can make phone calls or go to say a mall and hold up the magazines. They never let you quit until you end up on life support, then you are excused from turning in a service report for the month-well, I think the elders would excuse you for that.

justhuman

Randy actually the happy factor it is a drug. Jw's are NOT happy people. It is just a lie created for the GB to ease the pain of their followers because they ARE NOT NORMAL people.

When I was there I could see the fear and agony in their eyes why did Armageddon didn't came yet. And when a bad event occured they were eager to see if this event will be the start of Armageddon. Like the Gulf War, the boming of Serbia, 9/11, war in Avganistan, war in Iraq, the Palestinian issue, the Tsunami, and now maybe the new war in Iran.

Every time a bad happened JW's are so happy for that because it is a proof that we are close to the end!!! And every time their expectations failed just like 1914, 1918, 1925, 1942, 1975, the generation.

I was the most unhappy person in the world, just like any other kid raising in the most mind destructive cult. No birthdays gifts, christmas gifts, and all the other kids they used to take as a granded. Specially the fear of Armageddon that would destroyed all of my non JW's friends, and the birds of prey will eat their flesh after.

S***t I just hated there. Now I have get rid all of their crap theology and I found meaning and hapiness in my life on the one hand, but on the other my decision cost me my family. Yes I lost my family from the most happy Organization in the world!!! For my wife I don't care less, I try to help her to see why I didn't like meetings and after why I have stoped believing in the False Prophets in Brooklyn. She turn me in to the Elders for apostasy!!! And I told them straight in their eyes that they are following a False Prophet...and happily they disfellowshiped me!!!

But I didn't had any choice. I have 2 small children and I will try to get them out of the s***t.

mouthy

have 2 small children and I will try to get them out of the s***t.

I hope & pray you will succeed.

THE HAPPY FACTOR

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