Happy are those who are shunned!

by Gill 26 Replies latest jw experiences

  • Gill
    Gill

    Happy are the shunned, since they will have peace and quiet!!!

    Oh yes! Truer words were never spoken.

    For all of you who understandably miss your family, just think of the troubles those of us have to endure when some of our JW family refuse to shun us and make it their lifes work to 'encourage' your return to the cult with threats of imminent death by their ever loving God!

    My mother! You knew those words were coming didn't you! Bloody woman! I could have happily throttled her down the phone today.

    Any way, WE did not go the plate passing ceremony, otherwise known as the Memorial Today, She rang.

    I was told I was bitter and twisted. I was told that if I didn't 'come back soon' for the sake of the children I would be 'Sorry'. I was struggling to get a word in edgeways but was told I was shouting.....I was trying to say a little bit in self defence.....is that wrong?

    I told her that she was in a cult and that she was under mind control and talked like a Watchtower on legs.

    Naturally she didn't like that!

    I challenged her on history, and Constantine and Christ's Divinity on which she had a total fit when I said there was no such thing as a virgin birth or resurrection......(sorry to you believers, but I'm sure that all of you would give me the right to believe as I choose fit, even if you don't agree).

    I told her that since I'd left the WT I'd only been ill with colds whereas before I had been depressed and ill my whole life. Now I was gloriously happy. She said I was fooling myself and all people who leave the troof 'think' they're happy wheras really I'm miserable as sin!!!!

    I told her she had no right to judge me and she should respect my choice not to believe (in my words) Watchtower Bull Shit!

    She again condemned me, and said that words to the effect, 'Jehovah would get me and punish me and the children for saying that!'

    I said she was being superstitious!

    I said I didn't like the God of the bible because he was a homicidal maniac. She said he had a right to kill who he wanted! How dare I judge him. And apparantly he's going to get me for saying that as well!!!

    WE said a lot more....all of it a waste of time but when I blamed her for dragging the whole family into a CULT she went totally balistic and slammed the phone down on me!!! Hurray!!

    Bloody judgemental woman. There was a lot more said....and of course I was in the wrong over everything!

    Happpy are those who are shunned!!!

  • dedpoet
    dedpoet

    Hi Gill,

    Thankyou for the laugh, I just read your post out to Linda, and we are both having a good giggle.

    Fortunately, neither of us have any jw relatives, but we are both happily shunned by many of our
    former so-called friends. I suppose they think that jehoobie is going to get us as well, we don't say
    anything good about him or his org, and bullshit is a term often used here in relation to wts teachings.

    WE said a lot more....all of it a waste of time but when I blamed her for dragging the whole family into a CULT she went totally balistic and slammed the phone down on me!!! Hurray!!

    I would love to have been listening in to that one lol!

    Happy are the shunned, since they will have peace and quiet!!!

    Indeed!

    Trev

  • Gill
    Gill

    (((((((((Hi Trevor and Linda! )))))))))))

    Glad to hear that you're home Linda! Happy to entertain you with my woes! You'd think JWs could get their act together and Shun you when they're supposed to, wouldn't you!

    I really hate to be judged.....it's rather irritating at the best of times.

    Apparantly she saved me from being a Catholic......she had me dunked as a baby. I said I was forced by her and WT doctrine into being dunked at 15. She insisted I 'wanted' to be baptised and couldn't understand that the threats of imminent destruction by above mentioned 'loving' god could drive many a sane person to be partly drowned in a paddling pool infront of hundreds!

    Oh the insanity of it all!

    Shun me please, mother!

    But it's not over till the 'fat lady sings' unless I strangle her first!!!

  • dedpoet
    dedpoet
    You'd think JWs could get their act together and Shun you when they're supposed to, wouldn't you!

    Yes you would think that Gill. The ones we see around here seem to have their act together in that way lol.

    Apparantly she saved me from being a Catholic......she had me dunked as a baby. I said I was forced by her and WT doctrine into being dunked at 15. She insisted I 'wanted' to be baptised and couldn't understand that the threats of imminent destruction by above mentioned 'loving' god could drive many a sane person to be partly drowned in a paddling pool infront of hundreds!

    I was dunked as a baby in a Cof E church. I don't remember it, I was about 3 months old, so I'm told. I was dunked into being a jw at 41, old enough to have more sense really, in 1992 at Hellaby - maybe you've been there? A former friend of mine took a couple of photos of me being dipped, which Linda occasionally threatens to scan and post. They are well hidden now however, I have bad enough memories of that day without seeing a reminder of it on here.

    We don't care for being judged either, though I'm sure it happens fairly regularly behind our backs. I know I'm one of the more unpopular ex jws with current members around here because of my website. I expect they think jehoopla will get me for that, but I'll take my chances.

  • ex-nj-jw
    ex-nj-jw

    Hey Gill,

    I wish my mother would shun me too!!! She did for a while, but after I began shunning her she had a change of heart!!!

    About a month ago she mailed me a bible, I quickly packaged it up and sent it back, express mail with a note saying, "cult material is not allowed in my home"!!!

    You can imagine the phone call I got 2 days later Sometimes I wish she would just disappear, I call them once a month to check on their health and to see what my triffling (7 kids all different daddies, but noless the GOLDEN CHILD) is up to, and we always get into a heated discussion about the big A, and that my kids are now old enough that maybe they will survive, it's my fault they don't know Jehovah, but I'm definetaly a gonner. I told her that I wish he'd get it over already cause I'm tired of hearing it!

    Why were we blessed with parents that won't follow the rules????

    nj

  • dawg
    dawg

    It's so freaking hard to know what to do... You love your family and know for a fact they're insane... how to handle that? My family has been in so long I don't think they could live without it. and what's it all about? Not one damn thing, It's all a mind game based on fear that no one should have.

  • Gill
    Gill

    Dedpoet - With Linda being so unwell at the moment, the last thing you need is JWs round. Personally, whenever I was seriously ill, I always found JWs would come round and try to find out what you personally had done wrong that meant you deserved the illness you had. I remember when one of my babies was born with a potentially serious abnormality and an elders wife coming around and asking me if I had done something that would cause Jehovah's protection to be lifted from my baby!? Arrogant B.....!

    You do not want JWs around you at any time of crisis or tension!

    ex-nj-jw - Your mother sounds as dumb as mine. I honestly believe that they cling to their cult because they really cannot handle the real world for what it is! They need to feel special and protected and better than anyone else. Their judgmentalism on us and ours is totally sickening! Where does it say in the bible that you have to go to meetings, sell mags etc and then you will live forever! Where does it say you have to be totally intolerant of everyone else?

    They are sad fools and I think we have to just try our best to let their silliness go over our heads.

    Dawg - You love your family and know for a fact that they're insane! I love that line! It's so perfectly spot on!!! As you say, it's a game based on fear and they're the frightened ones that are just trying to frighten every one else! Sad and pathetic really!!

  • BFD
    BFD

    Thank you for the very interesting post. It is nice to see shunning from a different perspective. Apparently, the grass is greener on the other side or maybe there just isn't any grass on either side. It's all dirt.

    Thanks, again.

    BFD

  • jambon1
    jambon1

    If that were my mother I would have taken offense at what she said about my children being killed and I would have informed her that unless she wants to be 1st apologise and then be reasonable and have a relationship based on what/who you are now, then she is no longer welcome at my home or on my telephone.

    Really, I would.

    How any of you with family who are like this cope, I do not know.

  • rowan
    rowan

    sorry to hear that. I can totally relate with your frustration. Trying to talk with my parents is like talking to wall, also.

    I tell ya what I do: I avoid. It's realy bad for my health so, I refuse to talk about it. yes, from now on, if they bring up the topic of religion, they are going to be the ones shunned. I love them dearly, but at this point, my health comes first.

    good luck, and take care of yourself and YOUR family.

    rowan

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