Earlier in the day, I posted my thoughts regarding
the Bible and as regards the question that is posted
this is how I choose to answer.
Whether or not the Bible is God's word, the fact of
the matter is that it still carries practical guidance
on everyday living.
The book of proverbs for instance carries sound advice
and guidance if an individual is willing to apply it
in their lives.
In addition, governments such as the United States and
Great Britian have inpart used the Bible as a foundation
or cornerstone for making laws.
I use the Bible because I think it is practical and time
tested.
Respectfully,
The Wanderer
Why are people so afraid to question the authenticity of the Bible...
by zeroday 55 Replies latest jw friends
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The wanderer
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Madame Quixote
Yes, Wanderer, I can agree with that. I can also agree that the bible provides a great many stories and recipes and god-given excuses for infanticide, patricide, fratricide, human sacrifice, incest, drunkenness, genocide and other inhumanity and/or debauchery.
In addition, the demands of this very anthropomorphic god of the bible include:
burnt offerings, gold, expensive spices, perfumes and plain old money. (Presumably the Levite priests were a heavily powdered and perfumed tribe of landless, obsessive-compulsive overlords).
His tastes seem awfully human to me. And "time-tested" as well.
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The wanderer
Dear MadamQ:
I am unsure what your position is regarding whether
or not God exists. However, as a designer I know
the type of work that goes into design.
The planning, storyboards, and color schemes
are absoultely essential if you want to produce
something that is going to be successful.
I do not really know if the God of the Bible is
the same that designed the universe and planet.
However, if someone were to tell me that things
just got here by "accident" or "coincidence" they
would have to have outstanding evidence leaving
no room for doubt.
Just my perspective on things.
Respectfully,
The Wanderer -
Madame Quixote
Natural selection does not operate as a matter of "coincidence" or "accident;" nor is it an entirely random process.
The cosmos is a happening not yet explained by evolution, but the idea that it too evolved (in a manner similar to earth and life on earth) is far more credible than the idea that some highly evolved intelligence created it (because that simply begs the question, how did this god of the bible evolve) and how could that theory not be less probable than no god evolving or existing at all?
It would be a very interesting prospect if god's existence were to be proven, though. It is quite unlikely, though, that any god at all had a hand in evolving our planet and its life, from the perspective of most accepted scientific research and study in the field of biology (and genetics).
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Madame Quixote
outstanding evidence leaving no room for doubt.
For me the "outstanding evidence leaving no room for doubt" is in the very non-random, bottom-up nature of evolution by natural selection, a very well-founded and solidly established theory of life on earth. The philosophy of creationism cannot hold a candle to it.
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jaguarbass
People on this site are just recovering from being abused salespeople for a sales company that puts out bad literature. Many of them are not ready for the reality that Christianity and the bible are the false grandadys of the Watchtower bible and tract society. Many of them must jump out of the frying pan of being a witless and into the fire of being a christian. Many will never see the light. Because they are sheep by their own admissions. And sheep arent that bright. Those that claim to be whales and wolfs probably know what you are talking about. And those that are still sheep, I think it is a personal evolutionary process to come to see reality, light and the truth.
Each person must work out their own salvation. The salvation is being saved from the false hood of the bible and christianity.
Here is a link that will give bible thumpers something to think about.
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/emmett_fields/word_of_god_debate.html
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jaguarbass
Wanderer you think the bible is practical and time tested. When the evil men are at your door and they want to have homosexual sex with your gentlemen visitors ,you are going to give them your virgin daughters like lot did and protect your male visitors that you dont even know. That's not practical to me.
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Abandoned
Wanderer you think the bible is practical and time tested. When the evil men are at your door and they want to have homosexual sex with your gentlemen visitors ,you are going to give them your virgin daughters like lot did and protect your male visitors that you dont even know. That's not practical to me.
Excellent point. Really looking at what many of the object lessons in the bible actually teach is more than enough proof that this isn't some enlightened guide on how to live a successful life.
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bigmouth
"..well-founded and solidly established theory of life on earth.."
Mme. Q, I think your statement above might be a contradiction in terms! ;)
On another thread I said that I felt that both belief and non belief required a measure of faith.
If God exists he is not the sort of person I would recommend imitating. But if I have to believe in purposeful creation or evolution I will have to plump for a creator.
I don't know how he got there, but I don't know where inorganic matter came from either.
My head hurts. -
Confession
An excerpt from one of my favorite Jack Johnson songs, "It's All Understood," from the album, "Brushfire Fairytales." Do go here and listen to a clip if you like...
But the good Book is good
And it's all understood
So don't even question
If you know what I meanBut it's all relative
Even if you don't understand
Well it's all understood
Especially when you don't understand
And it's all just because
Even if we don't understand
Then lets all just believeBut there you go once again
You missed the point and then you point
Your fingers at me
And say that I said not to believe
I believe
I guess
I guess it's all relativeThis song used to play over and over in my head a few years ago, as I was beginning to figure out things were not as previously accepted.