GOD CREATED THE EARTH FOR, ummm, MAN, ummm, DINOSAURS!!

by Terry 24 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  Terry

  I guess Jehoobie used dinosaur sh*t to fertilize the "garden of eden".......

  JW's might have dino-poop for brains!
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  Terry

  Let me give the ignorant JW answer.

  God was preparing the earth for man. Okay, the atmosphere had to be just right for the best enjoyment of life.
  God made lots of plants to condition the atmosphere. Next, he had to eliminate some plants when the air was
  just right. He made animals to eat the plants. The dinosaur ate quite a bit. After the plants were eaten, God
  destroyed the dinosaurs (somehow) and was ready to put man on the earth soon thereafter.

  Maybe the dinosaurs were around for millions of years, but it wasn't forever. Man will be here forever. Further,
  each dinosaur had no relationship with Jehovah and it could never live forever. Each man can have that relationship
  and the possibility of living forever in a beautiful house overlooking a stream, petting lions and riding elephants while
  picking his own fruit, every single day of eternity.

  There was a famous cartoonist named Rube Goldberg who drew long, tortuous, elaborate schemes for doing very simple things. This reminds me of that kind of thinking. (checkout this link for images: http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&q=Rube+Goldberg+&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=2
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  Terry

  My son is 16 years old. He has a teacher at school who tells him God created the earth already "old" and with buried dinosuar bones TO TEST THE FAITH of believers.

  Are your sons teachers allowed to teach that ?

  I would definitely go and have a word with him...........

  This teacher is an art teacher and he is male. He doesn't teach his views, but, my son (being my son) has drilled him, grilled him and taunted him mercilessly. If we are to feel badly for somebody; it should be the teacher.
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  Confession

  I was going to ask the same question about the teacher, Terry. I was surprised you weren't more upset by this ridiculous statement--given the previous experience your daughter had with another teacher's religious "counsel"--and your reaction to it. But if your son wanted to keep pressing the teacher for his personal beliefs, I suppose there was nothing wrong with his expressing himself.

  You know, of course, that dinosaur flatulence was what Jehovah used to stablize the earth's temperature and bring us out of the Ice Age.
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  Terry

  I'll tell you what really gets under my skin.

  Locally on AM radio 570 there is a new guy in town with a very strong religious inclination. He is a talking head on Talk Radio like the rest of them; with one difference: he encourages evangelical subjects on secular radio.

  Nothing too far-fetched you say?

  Currently he is featuring discussion on Evolution vs Intelligent Design by demonstrating that he knows nothing about Evolution. He constantly refers to Evolution as Darwinism. Darwinism? That is like discussing Christianity by refering to it as latter-day Judaism!

  All his arguments are Strawman Fallacy statements. That is maddening enough, but, 99% of his callers are the ill-informed populace who have no facts at their disposal. This is Texas, after all.

  Why don't I call in, you say? Well, that is what is frustrating. I want to. I really really want to. However, I'm not stupid as to the dynamic of the way talkradio works. I would only get to make one statement before being interrupted and overwhelmed with five minutes of Host rhetoric and then cutoff from reply. That isn't debate. That is HOST CONTROL.

  So, instead, I have to tune in to some other program to calm myself. I just can't bring myself to listen.

  I love the "guests" who call in who are scientists amenable to "allowing for the possibility" of "design". As if this has any content or "meaning"!

  All such discussions redound to metaphor and assertion while pretending to be about probability and logic.

  Nuts!

  A discussion about Trigonometry cannot take place when parties to that discussion have little or no knowledge of Trigonometry. Further, what if an alternative to Trigonometry were offered which had to do with chicken bones and tea leaves?

  Imagine a debate about the Oracle of Delphi vs Science or Astrology vs Statistical Analysis. Can anything of substance come from such a discussion?

  I'd say the largest chunk o'christians out there who think about Evolution (Devil-oution) have only heard the Christian strawman version of it discussed and form their opinion based on ridicule and demeaning rhetoric.

  I know I did for years and years!

  It was my good fortune to finally have a discussion with somebody very intelligent whom I've know for years who bothered to ask me questions.

  "Terry, tell me everything you know about what evolution is and how the theory works".

  They listened and made corrections as I went along. It was an Epiphany! I had 80% of my "facts" wrong because I had gotten them from Watchtower Publications!!!

  Did Man Get Here by Evolution or Creation--Which? Is a good example of dishonest strawman presentation.

  I was invited to look at the footnote citations and read the information BEFORE and AFTER quotations made from Evolution scientists in the actual book rather than the exerpted version. I was dumbfounded to see how LIES had been created.

  It would be like taking a movie critic's words "The most exciting experience I had watching this horrible piece of crap movie was when "The End" was shown and I could leave the theatre grateful I had lived to see this film was over."

  Then, turning the exerpt into: "The most exciting experience...."

  "..I could leave the theatre grateful I had lived to see this film..."