Family About to Disown Me

by Moridin 46 Replies latest jw friends

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"...Jaracsz 2:10."
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mommy

Good for you Moridin!
And good luck! My brother recently announced that he was going to enlist. I gave him the biggest hug and kiss and told him I was proud of him. Of course my sister stormed out of the house and has refused to speak to me since. His reasoning was that he is DF, has no life works 60+ hours a week and the rest he drinks himself silly. So he is either going to die from alchohol or get his life straightened out. What better way than to join the service? It will give him goals to reach, and a sense of accomplishment.
Oh did I mention he was DF for getting a DWI at age 19? Yes, he was coming home from an elders house where several underage kids were served alchohol but he was silly enough to be caught! Silly kid didn't he know better? Of course the elder is, and remains an elder in fine standing
You have a wife and child who will have so much pride in you, and please feel free to share with us. I for one am behind you!
wendy
Blind faith can justify anything.~Richard Dawkins
AGuest

Dearest Moridin... may you have peace...
My Lord has granted me to offer you... and your mother (whom I am sure still puts her faith in the law written on stone tablets)... the following:
Luke 3:14 (please notice that John did not CONDEMN those in 'military service')
Matthew 10:34-39 (please notice that my Lord says a sword is what he would put between members of the same household)
Using these verses, then, you may perhaps be able to help your mother (I don't know about the 'elders', though; I mean, CAN they even BE 'reasoned' with?) see that you are doing nothing wrong, nothing condemned, nothing unscriptural, and that if a division occurs, it is the Master who has brought it about... and SHE... who is allowing 'place' for such division?
You can then remind her of her OBLIGATION... supposedly as a 'christian' to:
'Love [one's] enemies'- Matthew 5:43-48
Not 'hide oneself from [one's]] own flesh' (family) - Isaiah 58:6, 7
Not 'put [one's] trust in earthling man (i.e., the GB, et al.) in whom NO salvation belongs' - Psalm 146:3
Not have any other 'leaders' (i.e., GB, et al.) than Christ - Matthew 23:10
Listen ONLY to the 'voice' of that One... and NOT that of 'strangers' and 'hired men' - John 10:1-15, 27
And, in considering all of THAT, NOT GO BEYOND THE THINGS WRITTEN? Would you tell her, please, that following the GB, et al., and listening to THEM... is NOT WRITTEN... and that what IS 'written' is:
"And false prophets and false christs will arise,
and will give great signs and wonders so as to mislead,
IF POSSIBLE... EVEN THE CHOSEN ONES." - Matthew 24:24
And then tell her also, please, for me, that as a 'chosen one', I have been compelled to share this information with her, that THEY are in fact imposters... and are misleading many... including her... but it does not HAVE to be that way? And that there is only ONE "Way" to get to my Father, JAH (Psalm 68:4); and there is only ONE "Truth". (John 14:6)? And the WTBTS, with its Pharisaical false prophets and false leaders who 'seat THEMSELVES in the seat of Moses' (Matthew 23:2)... are NOT him?
I would truly appreciate it if you would share this with her, and my Lord will indeed bestow a blessing upon you for not being ashamed of him, but speaking the TRUTH about him and exposing those who falsely mislead in his name. I, myself, SJ, have spoken it to you, just as I have heard it from my Father, JAH OF ARMIES, through my Lord, His Son, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH, by means of holy spirit.
And again, I bid you peace...
A TRUE servant to the Household of God, Israel, and a TRUE slave of Christ, by means of a TRUE anointing with holy spirit,
SJ
Prisca

Moridin,
I'm sorry to hear that your own mother has vowed to disown you. Hopefully she will one day see the folly of her actions, especially in regards to her grandchild.
However, you will have to endure many serious situations if you go to war, and you will need to have the mental and emotional strength to endure them. I am sure you will get the best training from the US Army.
On another issue, mommy said:
Oh did I mention he was DF for getting a DWI at age 19?

The guy should consider himself lucky he didn't kill himself or worse, someone else, when he was driving home. Getting DF'd is far less a punishment than having the death of an innocent person hanging over his head!
mommy

Prisca,
Enjoyed your thoughts on a DWI. Of course there is a law in America where the last place a person leaves, be it a home or a bar...they can be liable for the actions of a drunk driver as well. Did you know this? Do you know when you are drinking, your thinking capabilities are not the same as one who is sober? Hmmm yes we should still blame him though because hey, lives were at stake huh?
Please overlook the part of my post where I said an elder who is still in good standing was the person who gave him alcohol he is not legally able to drink. Also overlook that many other underage kids made it home safe...well we assume they made it home safe, you know how an inebreated person can have a black out. Perhaps they thought they ran over a mailbox and it was really a human.
Well, we could go round and round and assign blame, and point the finger. But why? My brother is no different than anyone including you. And until almighty gawd steps down and tells me that Prisca is able to make judgement calls on everyone and anyone, because she is perfect. I will not be listening to your silly rant and finger pointing. So please step off that high horse and relax! [8>]
wendy
Blind faith can justify anything.~Richard Dawkins
outnfree

Moridin,
Thank you for your strength and courage and willingness to sacrifice.
Also, please remember that your mother had a typical, brainwashed Witness reaction. She would do the same to any young Witness or formerly associated person who dared to join the military. It's not personal.
Thanks, too, to your wife and daughter who are supporting your decision.
Kudos,
outnfree
Par dessus toutes choses, soyez bons. La bonte est ce qui ressemble le plus a Dieu et ce qui desarme le plus les hommes -- Lacordaire
ARoarer

Moridin, your mother must realize that your joining the military is an act of love for humanity. In this situation with the US at war, you are joining the governmental authority spoken about in Romans. It is God's minister of vengeance against those committing wrong, criminal acts. To see the way the people over there ruled by the Teleban are harming thier own people because of their evil treatment and low regard for human life, they will receive justice from the superior authorities that God has in thier relative positions for the good. This is in the book of Romans I forget the exact scripture, and can't look it up right now. The Bible also says greater love than this hath no man than to give his life in behalf of his friends. These former "friends" enjoy protection, and their children enjoy protection because of men like you. This is the homeland, just like your house is your home and an evil murderer trying to come in and murder your family, would have to be stopped. God bless you and keep you safe and strong.
Prisca

Mommy,
You obviously haven't had a member of your family killed by a drunk driver.
If you had, I would bet anything your idealised image of your brother's actions, or those who also drove whilst drunk, would be much different!
Hmmm yes we should still blame him though because hey, lives were at stake huh?
Yes, he is at blame because once he sits in the driver's seat and drives away, he is responsible for his actions, regardless of how drunk (or sober) he is. Stop puting all the blame on the elder. Yes, he had some responsibility, but your brother is not entirely innocent either.
Again, I will state your brother got off lightly by getting disfellowshipped. Would you rather that he had killed someone when he was driving home? That would really make his df'ing worthwhile wouldn't it?
[8>]
mommy

First I would like to apologize to Moridin, that this topic went off course.
I must say Prisca that you really have changed. Or is it that you are now showing your true colors? For months I heard you whine about how awful this board was getting, you even left didn't you because you just couldn't handle all the fighting?
Now as I read the board, I see your off handed snide remarks instigating fights. Of course I have seen your comments before in chat, that prove what a selfish, heartless woman you are. But when you post on the main forums, you at least tried to sweeten up a little, on certain subjects at least.
If you have a problem with certain posters here I suggest you ignore their posts, it will ease your heart. Getting the last word in at times may help you but in the long run you really are hurting yourself.
You are not a happy woman Prisca, I suggest knitting
And back to the subject at hand...I stand by my views. There is a responsiblity by all the members involved. Why would you even suggest that I like it if someone was killed in the scenario. Is that really how your mind works? You must get out more. [8>] BTW love the eye rolling at the end of your posts, shows just how teen you are But you aren't a teen are you? You are well past the age of doing such childlike behavior.
wendy
I am out of this subject now, I am not playing the "if" game with you...I am done. If you want to fight about something concrete I suggest you post to me in adult disagreements...this has gone too far.
Blind faith can justify anything.~Richard Dawkins
Prisca

And until almighty gawd steps down and tells me that Prisca is able to make judgement calls on everyone and anyone, because she is perfect. I will not be listening to your silly rant and finger pointing.

Poor mommy can't use those "inner brakes" inside her to apply her own words of wisdom........
First I would like to apologize to Moridin, that this topic went off course.

Yet Mommy starts up another post totally "off course".
Of course I have seen your comments before in chat, that prove what a selfish, heartless woman you are.
"Of course" mommy can't prove a thing. She just makes slanderous statements then runs away. Like when you said that you could see why I wasn't married yet. Yeah sure, tell us more of your "wisdom". You don't have the title "Mrs" to your name either, so you really don't have a leg to stand on, do you?
You are not a happy woman Prisca, I suggest knitting
Nah, you're the one who's preggo. I don't need to do any knitting.
And again, you make baseless statements designed to put down people. That's real loving of you mommy, while condemning me for the things I have said. Is it the hormones, or are you always this bitchy?
BTW love the eye rolling at the end of your posts, shows just how teen you are
Hypocrite! LOL........ I distinctly remember you had a eye-rolling icon in your previous post. Or have you taken it out know, so that people won't see what a lying hypocrite you are???
I am out of this subject now, I am not playing the "if" game with you...I am done.
You sure now? That's what you basically said in your previous post.

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