Gas prices soon to pass $4.00 mark (page 3)

stillajwexelder

Gas prices soon to pass $4.00 mark -so what. I think that is good -it will force a complete rethink. It will wean us off gas guzzlers. It will help the environment. It will force the boys in Detroit to build fuel efficient cars. In the end it will wena us off middle east oil. All good news

PrimateDave

The Federal Reserve Notes in my wallet are not worth anything. The private Federal Reserve Bank can print as many of these "debt notes" as they like. The notion that they have value is a purely social phenomenon. I think that we in the United States are very lucky that other countries still accept dollars for real goods and resources. However, there are indications that our luck won't hold out much longer.

The only commodity of any real value in industrial civilization is energy. Where energy is concerned, oil is king. It is a high density energy substance that can be easily transported and stored at normal temperatures. Conventional oil reserves had very high energy return on energy invested at the start of the petroleum age, about 100 to 1. Contrast that with Canadian tar sands which have an ERoEI of closer to 2 to 1. No alternative energy sources have ever had the unique properties of oil. Renewable wind and solar technologies can make electricity which could be used to make hydrogen or stored in batteries for transportation purposes, but the scale at which they would have to be deployed to maintain our happy motoring lifestyle would far exceed the limits of our planet. Biodiesel and ethanol also have a very low ERoEI. Being manufactured products, they face scalability issues as well.

The petroleum age has been based on a one-time geological event: organic matter trapped beneath the earth's crust and "cooked" in just the right way for millions of years. It is a finite resource that we have been burning up for the past one hundred years to fight wars, grow more food, efficiently mine other finite resources from the ground, and manufacture things to put in landfills. In the end we've succeeded in mushrooming the human population and bringing the entire ecosystem to the brink of a major die off.

There will be major changes in the near future, and the Powers That Be will use every trick in the book to maintain their power. Now is a good time to look into what makes our civilization function the way it does. It is very dangerous to assume that the way things are right now is how they will always be, or should always be. Just because Jehovah's Witnesses are wrong about things like the Great Tribulation and Armageddon, doesn't mean that humanity won't face grave challenges this century.

Dave

MidwichCuckoo

$4? Gasp - if only it WAS that cheap

calico

At this rate I'll have to sell my car to pay the gasoline bill!

Narkissos

If this is of any comfort we already pay it about 1.3 euros/liter which is currently over 6.7 dollars/gallon.
Yes BUT you also have the opportunity to buy cars that are more fuel efficient than can be purchased in the US due to our more stringent pollution laws.

I don't think our anti-pollution laws are any less stringent than yours -- I would rather have believed the opposite.

Afaik the most fuel-efficient cars are also the less polluting, with the exception of diesel (which can also be made much less polluting). And the policy here in the last few years has been to rise the price of gasoil more than other less polluting fuels (e.g. lead-free gasoline) to help control automobile pollution.

If the average American car wastes more fuel than the average European car, I think it is due to the consumer's choice and the commercials behind, combined with legal laxism.

dmouse

Echoing midwich cuckoo - $4 is a price we can only dream of. Here in the UK we already pay about $8 a gallon!

Simon

Y'know you are allowed to drive more efficient cars!

... that is what the rest of the world does anyway.

The Dragon

I guess now could be a good time to invest in technology researching alternative fuels and hybrid cars...as well as security systems to protect the rich from the poor when they can no longer survive and provide for their families....

Or it could go back down...and you could lose everything....

Seems with all the so called prophets who can see into the future and get information from God...would have no need for collections to survive and gain wealth...anymore than a mind reading poker player would.

Should I sell my mustang that gets 10mpg now? Or wait?

lol

SacrificialLoon

If by more efficient you mean bigger SUVs, then yes Texas drivers have some of the most efficient vehicles. I'm pretty sure cars are in the minority here.

Highlander

Gas prices soon to pass $4.00 mark -so what. I think that is good -it will force a complete rethink. It will wean us off gas guzzlers. It will help the environment. It will force the boys in Detroit to build fuel efficient cars. In the end it will wena us off middle east oil. All good news

I completely agree.

People look at me like I'm nuts, when I tell them the same thing, and this is in spite of the fact that my business is directly affected by transportation costs, yet still I welcome the

increased costs cuz I know it'll bring a greater good.

Gas prices soon to pass $4.00 mark

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