The Watchtower and Creation

by AlanF 91 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • AlanF
    AlanF

    It struck me this past year, with respect to JW teachings about the timing of Genesis 1, that even in things that really have no impact on what most JWs think of as "core doctrine" the Watchtower Society sticks to its traditions over what the Bible says. This was again brought home in the September, 2006 Awake! articles on Creation.

    In the NWT, Genesis 1:1 reads: "In [the] beginning God created the heavens and the earth."

    The Society claims that this verse allows for the 4.5 billion years that modern scientists have determined is the age of the earth, since it refers to a "beginning" after which six creative days and a rest day followed. But Exodus clearly says different:

    Remembering the sabbath day to hold it sacred, 9 you are to render service and you must do all your work six days. 10 But the seventh day is a sabbath to Jehovah your God. You must not do any work, you nor your son nor your daughter, your slave man nor your slave girl nor your domestic animal nor your alien resident who is inside your gates. 11 For in six days Jehovah made the heavens and the earth, the sea and everything that is in them, and he proceeded to rest on the seventh day. That is why Jehovah blessed the sabbath day and proceeded to make it sacred. Exodus 20:8-11

    Six days may work be done, but on the seventh day is a sabbath of complete rest. It is something holy to Jehovah. Anyone doing work on the sabbath day will positively be put to death. 16 And the sons of Israel must keep the sabbath, so as to carry out the sabbath during their generations. It is a covenant to time indefinite. 17 Between me and the sons of Israel it is a sign to time indefinite, because in six days Jehovah made the heavens and the earth and on the seventh day he rested and proceeded to refresh himself. Exodus 31:15-17

    Just as the sabbath was the last of seven literal 24-hour days, so must have been the day on which Jehovah rested, and so must have been the other six creative days. No ancient Jew reading these passages would conclude otherwise. Both Exodus 20:11 and 31:17 state clearly that "in six days Jehovah made the heavens and the earth." Genesis 1:1 mentions "the heavens and the earth" as well, and therefore "the beginning" must have been part of the "six days" of creation.

    Thus, Exodus defines the meaning of Genesis 1:1, against nearly 130 years of Watchtower claims to the contrary. Clearly, the Society rejects the Bible in favor of its tradition.

    Now, some Watchtower apologists might want to argue that the creative days were really 7,000 years long, based on the Society's argument that the seventh, or rest day of Jehovah, appears to be about 7,000 years long according to Watchtower chronology and doctrine. But this does not solve the basic problem, which is that Exodus lumps the creation of the heavens and the earth in with the six days of creation. So if each day were 7,000 years long, and we are now about 6,000 years into the "rest day", "the beginning" must have been about 48,000 years ago. But scientifically this is nonsense. The Watchtower Society realizes this, which is why it adamantly claims that those nasty young-earth creationists are anti-biblical, since they teach that the heavens and the earth were created only some 6,000 to 10,000 years ago, based solely on their view of the Bible. In view of Exodus 20 and 31, and Genesis 1, then, who is actually taking the Bible at its word?

    The Society is well aware that a teaching that the earth is only 6,000 or 48,000 years old would bring ridicule upon it -- even and perhaps especially from long-time JWs. It also realizes that both positions are equally ridiculous. So what does it now teach? Nothing specific. It simply claims that "the beginning" was an unknown but long time ago, perhaps the 4.5 billion years assigned by scientists, and that the creative days were "millennia long". But this wording is a total cop-out. Why? Because it doesn't commit to a position. Why is this important to Watchtower leaders? Because they know very well that committing to the scientific position that life has been on the earth for hundreds of millions of years would break the faith in the Society of tens of thousands of older JWs who were brought up on the "7,000 year creative day" nonsense, and they can't afford that. They also know that such committing would be extremely problematic for the hundreds of thousands of young JWs who are well aware from their secular schooling that the universe is billions of years old.

    The Society is well aware that Exodus poses an insoluble problem for its tradition, because it has carefully refrained from commenting on it in any literature I've been able to find indexed, from 1930 to the present and in the Watchtower Reprints Index which covers Watch Tower articles from 1879 through 1919 and topics in Studies in the Scriptures. As anyone who has carefully studied Watchtower literature knows, it even refuses to quote from the very Bible it claims to revere whenever such direct quotation blows away its claims. Rather, it paraphrases the Bible, adding or subtracting whatever is needed to support its tradition.

    I hope this topic is of interest to people.

    AlanF

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    AlanF..Nice to have you home!..Brainiac!..LOL!!...OUTLAW

  • AlmostAtheist
    AlmostAtheist

    Wow Alan, that's some good stuff. I never noticed that in Exodus before. Pretty well closes the door on that "open-ended" beginning crap, doesn't it? Very cool...

    Dave

  • The wanderer
    The wanderer

    Dear Alan:

    Your writing ability is impressive, however,
    I think if you could cut down on the information
    regarding your subject material the article would
    get a better response.

    Did you know for example, that you have over 900
    words contained in 43 sentences which in turn are
    contained into 12 paragraphs?

    If you "cut to the chase" there will be more
    participation regarding the subject at hand.

    Respectfully,

    The Wanderer

  • Anti-Christ
    Anti-Christ

    Good stuff!! I"ll ad that one to my list of bible absurdities.

  • LtCmd.Lore
    LtCmd.Lore

    Warning math content may not be approprate for all readers:

    4.5 billion years...

    4,500,000,000 years...

    even if 1000 years is as one day to god, that's 45,000,000 days. (4,500,000,000 / 1000 = 45,000,000)

    45,000,000 spirit days is 123,626 spirit years. (45,000,000 / 365 = 123,626. 373... )

    It took god 123,626 spirit years to make the universe.

    Now if I didn't know how stars formed, that might not be so lame, but I do know how stars form, they don't require any miracles. So basically god created a cloud of matter, which forms stars and planets naturally. And then waited 123,626 spirit years, for it to organize itself, before he starts working on it... then he does the hard complicated part in a few days, and then rests again while it all falls apart.

    That doesn't even make sense, and it makes this god guy out to be the laziest creature I've ever heard of.

    Lore

  • observador
    observador

    AlanF, nice to see you again! Yes, the subject is really fascinating. Observador.

  • Carmel
    Carmel

    hmmmm...wonder what "rest" means...... carmelite

  • Arthur
    Arthur

    It's good to see you back Alan. Enjoyed the thread. I remember that you brought up this subject when many of us were discussing the Awake article on Evolution vs. Creation back in Aug or Sep of 2006. I believe you pointed out how the Awake article criticized the young-earth creationists for being dogmatic and ignoring scientific facts regarding the age of the earth. Interesting; given the fact that when the shoe is on the other foot, they protest vigorously (i.e. their insistence that the geneological records which date back to Adam must be calculated literally). In one case they are willing to ignore all of the scientific evidence for a literalist approach. In the other, they are accepting the scientific evidence and admitting that the Genesis 1 account should not be taken literally. Clearly, they want to have it both ways.

  • Mad
    Mad

    Grow up, All-Knowing Alan! 4 points to go in one of your ears- and out the other:
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    Note 1 (Day 1) : Genesis 1: 1- In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
    2-And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

    ...The Earth ALREADY existed when the Creative "Days" began..
    ***************************************************************************************************************
    Note 2 (Day 1): Gen 1:3-And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
    4-And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

    5-And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
    ...the Creative "Day" was a period of time when he used the Light. Was it the Sun giving Earth a 24- hour Day as we know it???
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    Note 3 (4th Day): Gen 1:14nd God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night (Can you read this?); and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

    15-And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

    16-And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

    17-And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

    18-And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

    19- And the evening and the morning were the fourth day
    ....the FIRST Light (making day/ morning & evening/night) was from another source, since He didn't make the sun & moon til the 4th day.
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    Note 4 (AFTER the 6th Day, into the 7th Day): Genesis 2:1- Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

    2-And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

    3-And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

    4-These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,
    ....the ENTIRE PERIOD of 6 Creative Days is referred to as ONE Day.
    *******************************************************************************************
    Thus the BIBLE shows the Earth was Older than the NON-24 hour Days in which He made the Earth.
    The Church Fairy Tale of the 6 Periods of time being 72 hours is one of the reasons many smart, educated people don't give credit to the Bible- when the fault was not with it- but the Brainless Clergy- and people like YOU!

    The Mad JW

    edited to cure hyper-asterisk-ism and scrolling text ~ Scully

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