Diamonds, Are They a Scam?

by Satanus 45 Replies latest jw friends

  • minimus
    minimus

    Talk about moissanite---absolutely no resale value. Worthless! Try to sell a moisanite stone and see what you get.

    Regarding the buying of other precious stones, I think they compliment diamonds quite nicely.

    Don't be bloodguilty.....(hey is this Witness talk or what??)

    Don't disagree or you'll be labeled a sucker, gullible, naive and bloodguilty. (Hmmm, does sound Witnessy)

    Don't buy anything made in India or an impoverished country because the likelihood of slave labor is very real.

  • Brother Apostate
    Brother Apostate
    For those that believe having a diamond is murderous, do you folks eat meat?
    Once you see the butchery that takes place, I bet it doesn't stop you from having a delicious steak.

    I sure do eat meat. Murder = homicide, not the killing of an animal. Diamonds fund terrorism, racketeering, and murder. There is no comparison whatsoever. Apples and oranges.

    I have not only seen butchering done, I have done it myself. I recommend it to everyone who eats meat to try it themselves.

    Mmmm, meat.

    Trying to equate murder with eating meat is dishonest, diversionary and calls into question both the humanity and reasoning ability of one who would make such an assinine statement. Sounds like someone's having trouble coming to grips with their investment in worthless diamonds and their lack of conscience.

    Don't be bloodguilty.....(hey is this Witness talk or what??)

    Don't disagree or you'll be labeled a sucker, gullible, naive and bloodguilty. (Hmmm, does sound Witnessy)

    Don't buy anything made in India or an impoverished country because the likelihood of slave labor is very real.

    Yeah, reminds me of the poor Germans who looked the other way while Der Fuhrer cooked undesirables in ovens- real bright comment, min. If it bothers your conscience- look the other way, huh, min? Sheesh!

    It's not a scam. It's supply and demand. You don't pay as much for emeralds or rubies because they are not as desired and are more plentiful.
    People want them and so there is a market and what the market bears is what is paid.
    Diamonds and gold have always been desired and never been plentiful.

    You really need to educate yourself. Supply and demand has to do with a free market.

    Diamond prices aren't set by a free market, they are near monopolized by DeBeers and a few other companies that buy up the world's supply and fix the prices where they want them. So, it has nothing whatsoever to do with "supply and demand" in the free market sense.

    In the US (unlike South Africa) this would be called racketeering and would be subject to RICO laws and a long sentence in the Federal Penitentiary, like mob bosses get.

    "Gemstone prices are governed by many factors and qualitative characteristics, including beauty, clarity, defects, demand, and rarity. Colored gemstone prices are generally influenced by market supply/demand considerations, and diamond prices are supported by producer controls on the quantity and quality of supply."

    Source: minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/commodity/gemstones/290497.pdf

    Other gemstones (emeralds, rubies, etc) are not more plentiful than diamonds in the real world. They only appear more plentiful because of the previously mentioned practice of vaulting diamond supplies to artificially reduce supply. If diamonds are more desirable, it is only because of a 70 year old marketing campaign by DeBeers, et al. It is true that gold has always been desirable, not so with diamonds.

    BA- So, are diamonds a scam? Yep- you betcha!

  • Quentin
    Quentin

    I wear silver....have for many years...read in a history book some time ago that silver was the top dog in days gone by...a good cutter and polisher can take just about any stone and make it look good for a setting...I like rubies myself, but haven't had one for years...

  • minimus
    minimus

    I LOVE diamonds. I LOVE giving them as gifts and wearing them too! Diamonds aren't bad. They're good!!!!

  • Brother Apostate
    Brother Apostate

    I LOVE diamonds. I LOVE giving them as gifts and wearing them too! Diamonds aren't bad. They're good!!!!
    Fortunately, even children have more common sense and reasoning ability. I can see why you were (are?) a dub. Do you buy human skin lampshades too? BA- Shakes head, pities ignorance.

  • minimus
    minimus

    BA, you sound like an extreme animal activist. Substitute diamond for whatever. So, you're on a crusade. Good for you. Not everyone will share your sentiments. And if a person still wants to wear a diamond, they're dishonest and bad?? What a judgmental person you are!

  • Brother Apostate
    Brother Apostate

    Min,

    Try educating yourself on the issues before you mistake hastily passing judgement with enlightenment.

    Besides the facts I've already posted, which you obviously haven't read, here's some food for thought:

    No man is so foolish but he may sometimes give another good counsel, and no man so wise that he may not easily err if he takes no other counsel than his own. He that is taught only by himself has a fool for a master. -Hunter S. Thompson

    It is an easy thing for one whose foot is on the outside of calamity to give advice and to rebuke the sufferer. -Aeschylus

    "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." attributed - Edmund Burke (1729-1797)

    Opinions alter, manners change, creeds rise and fall, but the moral laws are written on the table of eternity. -Lord Acton

    To show resentment at a reproach is to acknowledge that one may have deserved it. -Tacitus

    Truth is confirmed by inspection and delay; falsehood by haste and uncertainty. -Tacitus

    There are two educations. One should teach us how to make a living and the other how to live. -John Adams

    A shocking crime was committed on the unscrupulous initiative of few individuals, with the blessing of more, and amid the passive acquiescence of all. -Tacitus

    You never know what is enough, until you know what is more than enough. ~William Blake, Proverbs of Hell

    A thousand men can't undress a naked man. ~Greek Proverb

    "Behind every argument is someone's ignorance."-Louis Brandeis

    "There is no country in the world in which everything can be provided for by the laws, or in which politicial institutions can prove a substitute for common sense and public morality." -de Tocqueville

    Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest. -Mark Twain

    Civilization is the limitless multiplication of unnecessary necessities. -Mark Twain

    To be good is noble; but to show others how to be good is nobler and no trouble. -Mark Twain

  • minimus
    minimus

    BA, will YOU look down upon those that still choose to wear diamonds after they've been enlightened by you?

  • Brother Apostate
    Brother Apostate

    Min,

    I don't judge- that's up to God.

    BA- "Inexperience can be overcome, ignorance be enlightened, but prejudice will destroy you." -Amberdrake, "The Black Gryphon" (p.105-106)

  • minimus
    minimus

    Brother, if you don't judge, you had better re-write your comments. Or better yet, maybe God will do that.

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