Conversation with a JW (page 4)

Bob Loblaw

When someone seeks to become one of Jehovah's Witnesses, the only concern is whether that person has an accurate knowledge of the bible, and of what it means to be baptized.

Boroean,

I think the whole point is the above comment by the JW person. If a person claims to be in "the one true religion" or god's sole spirit directed channel on this earth then that person should want to TRY to answer questions.

Of course vanilla believes otherwise and is attempting to get this person to become a "free thinker" by asking tough questions. These questions might actually cause a JW to do some thinking on their own outside of WTS mind control.

The JW should not be offended by such questions, afterall, they hold "accurate knowledge",...or "the truth" and should want to share it with anyway they can.

What happens though?,...tough questions are asked,...the JW gets offended and says you need to contact a Kingdom Hall and start a bible study, please don't contact me anymore!

Notice that vanilla's personal bible study and church isn't enough.

They only way people come into the JW religion (besides born into) and have "their heart opened by Jehovah" is through indoctrination and mind control starting with the "bible studies",...which aren't bible studies at all. They are studies in JW literature. Indoctrination begins here and the mind control continues once "the study" begins going to meetings.

There is nothing wrong with asking questions and there is nothing wrong with vanilla trying to open this person's mind a bit.

John Doe

Someone actually looks at JW as a whole, weighs the good vs. bad and finds the positives exceed the negatives to the point of dedication and baptism?

I'm glad you're happy with your religion, ber. Also, I think you do weigh good and bad before making a decision about anything. That's commendable. The difference between you and many on here, I think though, is that you don't see the bad that others see about witnesses and others don't see the good that you do. I don't think you're any different from any of the rest of us. And, this is my viewpoint and of course is therefore subjective, I think you're a little more mislead than others.

BEROEAN

Amber,

Perhaps i'm part of a new generation of JWs. I mean, I recall going to school and seeing JW kids and they stuck out like a sore thumb. When I asked a classmate why she always wore skirts, she said it was because of her religion and I thought thas was very odd. Nothing like the Baptist Church I was raised in. Interestingly enough, as I grew older, my views of the Baptist Church slowly changed. Adults jumping around in the aisles claiming to have the "Holy Ghost" was a charade. The only thing the Baptist Church cared about was money. Now, I suppose if a person was "raised in the truth" and chronicled every flaw, imperfection, hypocrisy, and error when ,from infancy, they believed God is perfect and His earthly organization is perfect, they'd be a little jaded by adulthood. But, is that what the Bible teaches and what JWs teach? I constantly heard about forgiving others impefections, elder bodies made up of imperfect men that can make mistakes, and constant re-reading the BIble for the TMS because we forget. But, if you're like me and had a taste of most mainstream religions and compared them to JW, JW are an oasis in a barren land.

You also feel that JWs feel they are right and everyone else is wrong. Not true. If I asked you if the world was round and you said, "No. It's flat." and I asked you to prove it from the Bible and scripture after scripture consistently said the earth was round, but you stuck to your view the earth was flat what would you want me to say? The Bible is the authority. All Christian religions are held to the standard of the Bible. I base my opinions solely on that. Nothing else.

Who are you?

But, if you're like me and had a taste of most mainstream religions and compared them to JW, JW are an oasis in a barren land.

Ah....but that is the mistake you make you are comparing BS to BS. People don't need religion. Religion needs them.

"Religion is a snare and a racket" Russell

VanillaMocha73

Nope - she refused to even try to answer them.

VanillaMocha73

So... all JWs are part of the New Covenant, Jesus is Mediator for all of them, and they all receive adoption with Holy Spirit? or just the 144K? As you can see from the Bible scriptures already given, the Bible is pretty clear on this. So, how do JWs justify believing differently?

VanillaMocha73

Aw, I know, but it is always worth a try. I wouldn't have been saved if someone had not tried to talk to me despite my protests.

Amber Rose

All churches have flaws, that's ok with me. Other churches that I have visited do not dwell on the faults of other religions, they have respect for other people's points of view. All that I hear form JWs is "who else doesn't accept homosexuals, Look at the catholics with their pedophile preists, Hitler's Pope, all Baptists want is your money." Never have I heard another church bash other religions like the JWs do. Why is it that if I don't agree with every word printed in the Watchtower, and I voice my opinion my friends will not be allowed to talk to me? That tells me that JWs think their way is the only right way, they have all the right answers.

Amber Rose

Oh, and if I wanted to prove that the world is round. I wouldn't go to the Bible, I'd probably find a book on physics or something. By the way "scripture after scripture" says that the world is round? How about some references.

BEROEAN

Amber,

That was just an example. Not a very good one, but nonetheless. (Isa.40:22)

Perhaps if I used the Trinity doctrine instead.

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