by VanillaMocha73 51 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
Now she's scared:
I cannot answer your questions. Not if I want to do them justice. However, if you go to your local Kingdom Hall, I'm sure they'd be more than happy to set you up with someone. Or, if you live within the US, you can submit the form on the website. Go to http://www.watchtower.org and click on the CONTACT US link located in the browse box. Fill out your name and address and phone number and someone close to you will contact you.
Have you been disfellowshipped?
Safiyah
I will try those steps – the website sounds OK. Will they send someone to my house though? I’m just not to into that. These days, who knows about strangers coming to your house? How would I know that they were safe? Are your members screened before they are allowed out? Do you run police background checks and such? Our church requires background checks before people can volunteer, especially if they are going to be around children (my house is full of them!!!). I don’t want just anybody in my home. I’m sure you are the same if you are a mother.
Why can you not answer my questions? They are pretty straightforward. These days most things are done online. The Mormons even have an online chat site where you can ask one of their ministers direct questions.
Why would I have been disfellowshipped?
And now she shuts down:
I wish you the best, but I will not answer your questions. If you're serious abuot finding them then either start a study with the witnesses or seek Jehovah, and if your heart is pure, He may decide to open your heart up to understanding. But I will not answer your questions for reasons already given numerous times. Repetition of your question is not going to change that.
Safiyah
One more try:
So.. you are unable to answer these questions from the Bible? Is that because you are weak in your own faith, or you do not think it is important to share your knowledge with everyone, even with those of us who are a part of the Christian church? With whom would you share your knowledge?
And her official shut down:
If you really want to know those answers, then go back to the Kingdom Hall you walked away from. Since you can no longer be civil, and since you seem to be unable to get the point, I will block your email address.
Insulting me, or attempting to weaken my faith will not work. I KNOW Jehovah is God, and I KNOW that Jesus is the Son of God, and I KNOW that the bible is the Word of God, and I KNOW that the New World Translation is the best translation.
You're the one with the questions. You're the one posing as someone who doesn't know better, thinking I'm not aware of who you are. I'm not interested in conversing with someone who cannot answer any of MY questions, but thinks that to bait me, or insult me will entice me to answer yours.
Safiyah
VanillaMocha,
Ask me anything you want. And BTW, 144,000 would be Kings and Preists residing in heaven (Rev. 14:3,4 see also ). Jehovah has established a government that will usher in that new earth in which righteousness will dwell. It's that same knigdom that most members of christendom pray for, "our Father who art in heaven let thy kingdom come on earth as it is in heaven." (Matt. 6:10). Seeing how most countries have a governmental structure, it isn't far-fetched that Jehovah would use a similar structure during Christs' thousand year reign. The rest of obedient mankind as well as those ressurected ones that never had a chance to learn of Jehovah's righteous standards would eventually grow to perfection like our first parents Adam and Eve (Rev. 7:9). The way Jehovah originally intended for mankind and for the earth (Gen 1:28, Ps. 104:5). Jesus, along with the 144K would open up new scrolls for these individuals to live by and would also rid the earth of those who willfully chose to disobey those laws (Ps. 37:11 and Rev. 21:1-4) . So, the 144k are NOT the only ones that will receive "salvation". This erroneous belief of JWs is usually spewed and regurgitated by those who haven't really took the time to talk to a mature JW. I could walk into a nursing home and pick out a senile catholic, ask her a bunch of questions, and draw my own conclusions about ALL catholics. Perhaps your questions are sincere. But, why ask them to a person that is studying and then post the unsuspecting persons comments on here for fodder?
How much you want to bet she was counting time as she responded to your questions. I love this line "And I made no such dedication to any human. Nor would they ever ask me to." No one realizes the gravity of that second baptimal question till its too late.
This was another great line of hers "if your heart is pure, He may decide to open your heart up to understanding." If God is suspose to be love and desire all to be saved Pure heart should have nothing to do with it. They use that as a defense mechanism against any who question their mis guided beliefs. You hit them soundly with relevent questions that they cant answer than heart condition comes into play. Dont they teach that Jehovah is the only one who can read heart intentions? If this is the case, why is it they read your heart as un-pure or decietfull, to avoid answering question's that put them in a bad light? Sorry if I went off on a lil rant there.
What an example of brainwashing at it's ultimate best!
Is God so flighty that he cannot make up his mind? Is God a liar? NO!
What! Do YOU not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit God’s kingdom? Do not be misled.
The whole business of "new light" flies in the face of this reasoning. Seems like he deliberately misled the flock ... only to redirect them later.
HOW can you possibly be claiming to obey Jehovah's 2 greatest commandments (To love God with your whole heart, soul and mind and to love your neighbor as Jesus loved us) how can you claim to be obeying Jehovah's two greatest commandments and yet NOT feel the urge to help them overcome it!
Jesus also encouraged us to love even our ENEMIES. How exactly is this love displayed? What about that unconditional love Christians are bound to show (agape). Her skewed reasoning seems to lump all types of love together. There are different types of love for differing relationships, and they come with their own set of rules.
I understand being busy, but the thought that comes to mind is this: If you do not take time for Jehovah, why should he take time for you?
Would a thought like this come to God's mind as well? Would a God "who IS love" reason like this? God's unconditional love is extended to everyone regardless of their time management. He provides for everyone. Does he not judge our heart condition, while mankind judges the outward appearance?
I wish you the best, but I will not answer your questions. If you're serious abuot finding them then either start a study with the witnesses or seek Jehovah, and if your heart is pure, He may decide to open your heart up to understanding. But I will not answer your questions for reasons already given numerous times. Repetition of your question is not going to change that.
Is there any example in the bible of Jesus responding to anyone in such a callous manner? The son of God was a meek and humble person whom even children felt comfortable around. He even ignored tiredness and hunger in his ministry ... the sheep were very important to him.
I understand being busy, but the thought that comes to mind is this: If you do not take time for Jehovah, why should he take time for you?
Jehovah - the Petulant God.
I can't be the only one who sees this but you're wasting your time dear. JW's love to argue, as long as they're the only one talking, the second you make an argument against them they back peddle and will not talk to you. Like somehow an argument with them will go exactly as it does on the platform during the service meeting.
