WTF are they even out in service for?

by mkr32208 32 Replies latest jw experiences

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  greendawn

  Are the R&F losing motivation? Is that why the FDS is trying so desperately to keep up the sense of urgency by spreading sensational rumours like, this will be the last memorial before the end or that the GB body will soon make an extra ordinary announcement and perhaps stop the preaching?

  If the end is not near any more what's the point? And as said above the dubs not only devote time to the org but also money in the form of fuel and vehicle tear and wear, it's a big benefit for the WTS given the number of dubs globally that use their vehicles for the org's work. Imagine if they had to pay for all that fuel and vehicle maintenance.

  But it's all done for their jehovah not for the WTS, he will bless and reward richly .
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  Highlander

  Obviously they're only out in service to do the "pioneer shuffle" and count time

  I run into j-dubs all the time on the street. I think the 'pioneer shuffle' is slower than ever before. I recall a couple of dubs taking nearly a minute to walk from one house to next that

  was at most 40 feet away.

  At least the mormons are faster on their bicycles.(not that I agree with the mormon cult either)
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  WTWizard

  Maybe this loss of motivation is behind the Watchtower Society insinuating that the end is coming in 2007. Last year they hinted that the 2006 Assembly would be the last, for deliverance is "at hand". Then there was the tract fiasco that we all remember so vividly where they were going to try and set off the Great Tribulation by p*$$ing off the other religion's leaders. That was a total flop.

  And this year, they were pushing the Crapmorial like never before. They were saying that it was possibly the last one. Which insinuates that Armageddon is coming in 2007. Of course, we know that this is likely to be another bust. Hopefully people will not fall for it this time. And I hope no one falls for it when they start the big push for 2014 or 2034, either. No wonder they are going slow.

  When I visited www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com screen 3, I found some interesting facts of how they came up with 1914. You will have to go there to read it yourself on the Pyramidology topic on that screen. What is interesting is that I recalculated it using metric measurements. And I came up with the year 7239 as the beginning of the end. Which is a long time: we have at least 5,230 years to go before time runs out. Get screeching out there! You only have 5,229 years and 364 days left!
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  erandir

  Which insinuates that Armageddon is coming in 2007. Of course, we know that this is likely to be another bust.

  WTWizard, what do you mean by "likely?" I would have used the word "definitely." Surely, you don't believe in that b.s. any longer?
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  daniel-p

  All this talk of how we "witnessed" brings back memories. When i was pioneering, there were two sisters who were pioneer "partners" and would literally, spend every day doing their magazine route. Needless to say, it became my objective to put myself in their car group every single day I was out. If they were'nt out, I wouldn't go out either. The other pioneers were notoriously gung-ho, I guess making up for the lack of zeal on the other side, making extra sure they were as effective as possible in their "ministry." For example, they instead of heading back to the hall at 11:56, they would squeeze one last door in. So, seeing as how I was the sole pioneer brother, I would try as hard as I could to finagle the car groups so I was always in the former two sister's group. If I made it, I could just kick back in the back seat, talk about my problems, drink coffee from my to-go mug, and not worry about a thing. If the latter group, well then, I had to be Johnny-on-the-spot, ready to jump out of the car at a seconds notice to grab some poor bloke on the street. As well as go to all the doors with dogs (even though I was mortally terrified of dogs [which I blame completely on pioneering and having to trespass private property continually for Jehovah]), and bust out my call book and make it look like I actually had calls to do.

  My God... I don't know how I survived four long years of that nonsense. Everyday I had horrible stomach pain from my nerves, giving me the runs - every single day. I only wanted to just get through it and go back home. The first 2 years I did all I could to meet my quota of hours. The last two years I started making shit up and lied on every single god-damned time slip. Pioneering taught me how to lie on my time slips and just make up my calls, books, mag's, etc. So I did that for years afterward to keep my hours looking nice. Every once in a while I'd have about 6 months or so where I was feeling especially spiritual or something and I WOULD actually get 20+ hours every month, and have calls and so forth, but the mindlessness of it all would soon sweep in and I would lose steam and start fudging my reports.

  My last 6 months of service look like this: 26 hours; 22 hours; 25 hours, 4 hours; 1 hour; zero. And that was the only time I was ever entreily honest about my hours - the last 6 months or so.
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  WTWizard

  "Likely" to bust: The only way for it not to bust would be for them to keep bumbling it out so that it could go on to 2008, then 2009, then 2010 and merge with the 2014 prediction. And that one is going to bust as well. They could do that. Otherwise, 2007 is going to be another total flop--it's already May, looking at another Grand Boasting SessionSummer assembly season. And they were supposed to have had the last of those last summer.

  Or, maybe there could be a nuclear war or a meteor hit on the Earth that could exterminate everyone. But were that to happen, the Witlesses wouldn't survive either. I think I will take my chances with being an apostate.
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  Balsam

  Sounds like the passion and zeal is non existent anymore. I never get calls from JW's but then I think they have me marked as apostate here now. I see them out here and there sometimes but they look pretty lack luster for a so called happy bunch of people.
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  Leolaia

  I posted a while ago about a JW train conductor here who was witnessing on the train while working, and was really gung-ho about it, not chatting to the passengers in general, but to a small mixed group in a car who talked up a storm about the Bible and the end of the world and the antichrist, for everyone else to hear. So there are some zealous ones out there somewhere...
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  logic

  I could never bring myself to say 'field service', what the heck is that anyway. Going from door to door is about the stupidest thing there is. I started going out when I was kid about 6 years old that I can remember. My mom probably took me out before that. Of the thousands of doors I have been to, I only brought one family into the 'truth', and that was my cousin. Just think of the thousands of people I ticked off. How in the heck is that preaching the good news. The few times I did go out just before not going at all, was just a big joke . You go with someone who has a territory, but that is for everyone else but himself, then you go on phony 'calls' or not at homes at the same time each saturday, that pretty well ensures that you dont talk to anyone. If I ever did place any literature I would just give it to them, because that way you got rid of it so it didn't stack up at my house. Thats another thing, all the blasted literature, Jesus its like the stuff grows on its on. My wife must think the stuff is sacred or something, for christ sake throw some of this crap away. And that is another thing, the society might print millions of this crap, but who reads it. I wish there was a way to find out how many people actually read it, even the witnesses dont read it, they have never got a clue what is in the magazines. And another thing about pioneers, you know how you can tell a pioneer, they tell you so. Just felt like getting some of that off my mind.
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  erandir

  Or, maybe there could be a nuclear war or a meteor hit on the Earth that could exterminate everyone.

  According to the Mayan calendar, I think 2012 is the end of the world as we know it. Then there is that asteroid that, if it passes earth inside a very narrow window in 2012, it will swing back around and hit the earth in a very ugly way. So, maybe the WTS has something after all. All they have to do is pay attention to the news and then fabricateinterpret scripture in a way that fits with it.

  But also, staying on topic here...I think the plague of apathy in the United States that the WT mentions from time to time not only comes from the householders but also permeates the congregations in this country. In spite of being counseled to go to the doors in pairs, we would go individually, and a lot of us would only knock lightly (some just pretend to knock) and hope no one answered.

  I know that in my old congregation, the zealous witness who actually talked to people they saw outside was the exception and not the rule. In whatever car groups I would be in, if we pulled up to a house and the householder was outside or in the garage, we practically drew straws to decide who would talk to him, no matter whose turn it was to take the door. Maybe that lack of courage meant that subliminally we had a problem with what we were doing, preaching door-to-door.