Did You Personally Know of Sex Offenders In The Congregation? (page 5)

cyberguy

As an elder (at one time), yes! In fact! We had a guy move into our congregation that later said that he had underage sex with a minor (after the Watchtower articles said such ones could not continue as elders) and turned himself in. He was removed; I believe I recall it was something he did before he became a JW. (So why is that a sin? Lawsuits? Probably!)

There was another elder in our hall who had sex with his own daughter for a number of years, and started to molest her at age 13 or so. Oh yea, he made sure he had their weekly family “Bible Study”, "field service," and of course, his follow-up on not just explaining sex, but having sex with his own daughter (wow! sex education in the JW-home!).

Sad to say, this girl's younger brothers called 911 (several times actually)! The police came out and later Child Services (in Florida, the State’s track record is abysmal)! Nothing was done for whatever reason. Of course the "elder body" found out about this, and we questioned him (the molester), but he admitted to nothing and said his boys were making it up! Of course, his boys were NOT making it up! A a later time, he was found out (by his wife). He said afterward, that he was messed up because he was molested by his uncle, who was still an elder at the time, and PO in a nearby congregation (this was the rumor I heard, and It’s probably true)! Of course, when there’s a chain of abuse, in some cases, it extends for generations! How sad, indeed!

Well, unfortunately, this is only a small taste of the abuses that I've been exposed to as an elder. If I wrote everything down on paper I’d have to write a book!
Your question is, regrettably, one of the “better” ones this time. However, it saddens me to think about the abuses and horrors that so many young-JW kids have gone through!

Interesting topic (in a twisted way), but I’m deeply saddened and depressed!

With friendly regards,

Cyber

avishai

several

Mrs Smith

One of my friends was dating an elder she was really excited about the relationship and wantd me to meet him, we spent the day together but there was something off. I could not put my finger on it. She phone me later to ask me what I thought of him and I told her that there was something not right there, it was as if he was trying to convince himself that he was in love with my friend. A few weeks later he broke it off with her and married a sixteen year old girl he was studying with!!!! This guy was in his forties at the time. The parents gave their consent and were only too happy that their daughter was marring an elder! My friend phoned me and thanked me for been honest when she asked me what I thought. He is still an elder.

A young girl that my husband knew was also having a regulat bible study with an elder in her congregation. She was 17 and he was in his sixties. They use to sit in her bedroom to "study". About six months into the study he got df and divorced his wife and married this young girl.

minimus

If the Society REALLY wanted to straighten things out, they would have talks on how to tell if a person is a molester. Show all the signs. What to look for...... But they do not want to straighten out this issue. Like everything else, they sweep it under the carpet. If an innocent victim or friend or family member brings attention to the abuse, THEY are the ones threatened with disfellowshipping!

When the Society wants to get a message across, they are very clear about how one could get into trouble, what might lead up to inappropriate action and so forth. But for some reason....this issue isn't as important as the sins of the internet.

Pistoff

Yes.

One of my extended family was involved in one of the older lawsuits; my niece was molested by this vile creep, he molested up to 15 girls, finally admitted to "improper" touching of the leg. I know what really happened.

Currently, a relative of mine is being harassed by a peeping tom who is also an elder; the elders know of it but he is denying it. She has been told to NOT bring it up to anyone, or risk df'ing. You know, wait on Jehovah.

And my wife reminded me last week that she used to call on an older woman who had been raped when 14 or 15 by an elder in the hall, who went on to be a CO and then at Bethel; I might give this name out if you PM me. I think the man might be dead now. Good riddance.

XBEHERE

There was never a reaction from the elders,nothing at all. Not even the other members of the cong talked to us about it. I was a fairly good dub in those days but this made me wonder,why no reaction at all?Why don´t they warn parents when a man like uncle L comes to a new hall-why would this sister be in trouble if they found out she had told me about him?

Because the elders aren't allowed to say anything or warn anyone, it would be considered a breach of confidentiality. I knew of one in my cong. and we were warned by an elders wife before deciding to move to the cong. I decided that we would still go and if this individual so much as looked too long at my kids I would follow him home from a meeting one day and kick his ass.

minimus

But you see, if you threatened to "kick his ass", you'd be guilty and DF'd for "fits of rage" as was expressed earlier in the thread.

sir82

Scary.

This DB is of course not a "random sample", but provides pretty convincing anecdotal evidence of how widespread the problem is.

Even scarier thought: How many of these individuals are on the list of 23,000 known offenders, and how many are not even known of by the Society? What fraction of the "real" total do those 23,000 names represent?

minimus

Is the number 23,000 actually verified?? If so, by whom?

Lo-ru-hamah

We have known at least two rapists. One served a sentence in prison but later in the congregation served as a MS. No one knew that he had been a rapist.

Another raped a sister and the elders drove past her home to comfort the rapist.

There was a presiding overseer that was a child molester. No children came forward but he molested his own children.

Two regular pioneers (fleshly brothers) molested young boys in the hall. One was finally caught and served a prison sentence. However, he is out now and back in good standing in the congregation. While he was disfellowshipped and in prison a COs wife thoughtfully asked about him "how is that poor brother" while conveniently forgetting to ask about the young boy that he had molested.

Another pioneer/ms we knew got caught up in a love triangle with a couple of young boys. He went to prison but is now out and in good standing.

Another elder molested his granddaughter. Never went to jail.

There was a Pioneer that had molested a few young girls and never went to prison. He was setting himself up to work alone in service with young girls.

So many to recount, it is rather repulsive.

Loruhamah

Did You Personally Know of Sex Offenders In The Congregation?

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