Do You Think The GOVERNMENT Should Require You To Wear A Seatbelt?

by minimus 44 Replies latest jw friends

  • aquagirl
    aquagirl

    Its mandatory in Maine too.Seems like a good idea.I always wear mine anyway,but thats a personal choice.I dont like to be told what to do,but if it makes sense,than so be it....

  • ex-nj-jw
    ex-nj-jw
    If people expect the government to carry them with disability pensions if they become disabled in a car accident, then I think the government, in an effort to minimize the risk of disability occurring in car accidents, should be able to require people to cooperate in minimizing that risk and comply with seatbelt regulations, otherwise they forfeit their "right" to be compensated by the state.

    Couldn't have said it better!!!!

    nj

  • SirNose586
    SirNose586

    Yes, I think this should remain a requirement. People will break the law anyway, so those who chose to flaunt this rule and get into an accident will pay the ultimate price for their "freedom."

  • delilah
    delilah

    If they are successful in making adult seatbelt use voluntary, then let's hope nobody expects the government to bail them out financially when they are crippled in an accident where they were not wearing their seatbelt.

    Bingo, Scully. If it's going to save your life, JUST DO IT. I understand what you're saying, Min, the government seems to like to control almost every aspect of our lives, but this is one area where I think it is appropriate.

    If you are in an accident, the last thing you DON'T want, is to be thrown from the vehicle....this happens far too often. There seems to be a lot of young people dying ( here in Ontario, anyways lately) from being thrown from their cars, due to the fact that they did not have their seatbelt on.

    As parents, we buckle our babies up in their car seats....then eventually they are old enough to buckle up themselves and it becomes an automatic ritual as soon as they get in the car. My kids have always put their seatbelts on and have reminded their father when he's forgotten.

    It just makes sense.Besides, it's the law in Ontario, and all of Canada, I believe.

  • Finally-Free
    Finally-Free

    OMG!!! Someone wants to legislate common sense???? It's a sign of the end!!! I'm going back to the kingdom hall!!!

    W

  • undercover
    undercover
    I believe helmets and belts save lives too. I just don't want government making laws telling citizens what they can or can't do in this matter. I think smoking is horrible but if a person wants to smoke (even in their car, by themselves), I think that should be their business.

    I agree.

    For the record, I wear a seatbelt. I wore a seatbelt before it was law. I wore one because of the safety reasons not because the government said I had to. A seatbelt probably saved my life in a bad accident that I had when I was younger. But I'm not naive enough to think that a belt is going to be the end-all in safety. People stil die while strapped in.

    I wear a motorcycle helmet because I have to...because my state govenrment says I have to, not because I want to. If allowed to decide for myself, I would choose to not wear a helmet in most of my riding. Let those who ride decide. Before anyone gets all safety nazi on us and cries about the safetyness of helmets, know that there are as many studies showing the risks of using a helmet as much as there are showing the safetyness of wearing one. At least with seatbelts, the safety factor outweighs the risk factor enough to justify wearing them.

    I don't have a problem in requiring a higher minimum in insurance coverage for non-helmet riders. I'd be willing to up my insurance to have the freedom to choose if I wanted to wear a helmet or not. Some days, I would wear a helmet, other days I wouldn't. Depends on the trip and the weather.

  • minimus
    minimus

    What annoys me is people and Organization(s) that believe that not only do they know what's best for you but if you don't agree with them, you're a moron.

  • zack
    zack

    No.

  • tijkmo
    tijkmo
    I think smoking is horrible but if a person wants to smoke (even in their car, by themselves), I think that should be their business

    you wouldn't have a problem then with someone lighting a cigarette and whilst being distracted in so doing, running into and injuring you as a driver or a pedestrian.

    are you ok with people drinking and driving

    doing drugs in the privacy of their own cars and driving.

    sometimes laws are passed simply because we are too ignorant of the consequences to think of them ourselves.

    i sometimes use the phone while driving. its against the law. if i get caught i cannot argue that my civil liberties have been broken.. if i kill someone in the process thats a whole different ball game.

  • Liberty
    Liberty

    Like so many of you have already illustrated it is clear that as the government does more it will need to restrict your rights more and more in order to control the control until you are like a dependant child or even a slave. Government controls, services, and regulations create reems of new regulations to define, clarify, and plug loopholes of all the previous government do-gooding. As we become used to these regulations we become more child-like in our willingness to accept even more.

    Clearly, I have an agenda. I am a libertarian. Human beings are not perfectable and there is not now and never shall there be a utopia were everything is perfect. This is the first step in abandoning the childish and unrealistic religions of communalism in all its forms. We must accept that we cannot legislate better people into existance as it has failed since the inception of civilization and the dark dominance of communalism throughout most of our history.

    Though not perfect or perfectable people are at their best when government interfers the least. By nature most people are cooperative and interested in self-preservation (selfishness). Accepting human nature as it is rather than "what it should be" allows free markets in both commerce and ideas and human beings can progress to their full potential, not perfection but as good as it gets. This state of freedom has always proven to produce better results (not perfect, just better) than any state regulated "perfection". Examples of state sanctioned perfection include when Catholics and Catholic-based state governments controlled most of Europe during the Dark Ages, the Nazi German Empire, and those glaring successes Communist Russia and Communist China.

    Experts in perfection are always going to insist that they know what is best for the unwashed masses. They fail every time because they always forget one important fact, they themselves and their grand ideas are not perfect. Communalizing imperfection just makes it more imperfect. Ideals born in imperfect minds or committees of minds will be imperfect as well as any institutions formulated by the imperfect. Brutal singular authority in the sevice of an ideal does not equate with perfection.

    I trust people to be people. I trust individuals more than groups. I trust reality more than ideals. I trust idealistic governments seeking perfect solutions to all of our problems the least. Ideals kill and maime people. Many more people have been killed by perfection seeking idealists than will ever be killed by individul selfishness or even stupidity. What are the real costs of providing "free" food, "free" medical care, preventing alcoholism, preventing drug addiction, preventing sexual obssesion, preventing cheating, or any social problem we can think of including people getting injured because they weren't wearing a seat belt? Living in a police state with a stagnent economy and the suppression of "dangerous" behaviours is too high a price. Having huge populations of non-violent people locked up unproductively in prisons because they gamble, drink alcohol, use drugs, or get paid/pay for sex is too high. Having the corruption of the police and polititians who take bribes or indulge themselves in these vices and the organized criminals who thrive under this suppression is too high. Wasting huge sums of money and resources on an idealistic drug/alcohol/tobacco/firearm/porn/prostitute/gambling war that has always been a complete failure at the cost of millions of lives in imprisonment, state sanctioned murder, and theft (confescation of property) is too high a price to pay.

    I accept the reality that there will always be social ills and inequallity but freedom will minimize these ills unlike the perfectionist policies of communalism which always make these problems worse because they refuse to accept human nature as it is.

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